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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:15 AM Original message |
Peter Daou: How The Dem Establishment Shunned The Left, Spawned The Tea Party & Moved America Right |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. Very well put. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Recommend |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. I was just pondering recents insults to me here as I try |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Bingo |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Bingo +1 n/t |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. I Agree With You. We Don't WANT To Feel This Way, But Being Ignored |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. Yes. |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
83. SO TRUE |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:03 AM Original message |
You can say THAT again. |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #42 |
109. You can say THAT again. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
117. Tell the people who to vote for, not who to withhold their vote from. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
67. +2 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
110. +1 nt |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
111. I noticed my own propensity/desire to insult |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #111 |
121. My biggest problem is repeatedly having to wonder if I'm dealing with a sincere critic, or RW troll. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
116. If you want credibility on that, you first need to produce an alternative... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. So now Democrats are being blamed for creating the teabaggers? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. When I see so much eagerness from Democrats for entitlement reform (cuts) |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. There are no cuts to Social Security and Medicare. Still |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I don't absolve them, I fight them and their voo doo economic theories |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. You know it might not hurt if you would actually listen to people once in a while |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. By " listen to people" |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. No I mean the simple quality of empathy -- rather than just thinking of some little put-down |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
106. Not in the job description. |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. I agree |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
79. They weren't started on their own. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. No, it means not being a blind party hack |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
86. The Koch funded DLC moved the party to the right, forcing the |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
87. You must have forgotten when the teabaggers first arrived |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Why do you suppose after the huge wins Democrats had in 2008 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Because |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Republicans came out in droves to the polls while Democrats didn't bother |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. What? |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I truly admire your determination and loyalty. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. No, it was because the left was ignored when it lobbied for jobs |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
97. old pattern. capital went to india (a rich developed country at the time), destroyed |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
74. Yes the Republicans are responsible, but so are their enablers the Turd Way/DLC/New-Democrats/Blue |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. What's more dangerous than Republicans? Democrats that vote with the Republicans. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. The Tea Party statred the Day after Obama entered the White House ... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. The problem is that their basic positions were never challenged in the arena |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Here's what those "low information voters" are hearing. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. There is another difference |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. So let's pick up on the Democratic "mixed messages" ... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. That's all very true, as far as it goes. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. I'm printing out your post, thanks. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #46 |
85. What I want Obama to do is to STOP AGREEING with Republican messaging |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
89. His only hope is to embrace progressive movement politics, or be crushed by the forces you describe. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
92. There is no such animal as the mythical 'low information left' voter. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
98. here's what they're hearing: unemployment still high. obama might not send out |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:09 AM Response to Reply #46 |
103. by the time OBL was killed |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. "That's a noble concept" |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I said concept -- Not the way to do it now....And also I would point out..... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. On any battlefield, the guy pointing a gun at you might be a perfectly fine person |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
41. That evil DLC forced the Koch brothers! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Well..... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. Why didn't the Tea Party make itself famous at the Wall Street Bailout Town Halls? |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
104. Who held those? nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. yes, you give them power by giving into them |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
84. a media creation funded by the Koch brothers and emboldened by the Republican Party |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
88. No, your side of Our party is responsible for |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. People say Why don't we have a Tea Party of the Left? We actually DID that during the Bushlerregnum |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. Why does Peter Daou hate Obama? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. It's not hate. He hasn't gotten over the primary |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. It's |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Haha hahaha!!!! |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. Although Dem origins of Tea Party are a stretch, OP's sad story of missed opportunity |
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warrior1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
10. He's up 83 percent |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Gallup push-poll. He's at about 8.3 percent among the activist base. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
19. Is |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
21. Al Gore on the tea party |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
23. Good article. "insulting them at every opportunity" |
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warrior1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. we've got to run candidates |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. He could have gone to WI a hundred times. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
26. FALSE PREMISE!!!! |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. welcome to DU, and thanks for this collection of links! |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. Thank you -- and very well said: |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. YOU Did Real Good With This... Now It MUST Be Re-Implemented... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
27. Peter Daou -- DLC sHillary's Internet director? That Peter Daou? n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. When I supported Obama in the primaries, I didn't care for Daou either. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. and did he mention any of this to DLC sHillary when he worked on her campaign |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
34. Pissing in the wind. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
38. I hold the Tea Party responsible for themselves |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
40. There's just no room under that "big tent" for Libs/Progressives anymore: |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. What a pantload. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
76. The Democratic Machine of Wash DC has sold out to the Corpoations. nm |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
43. Daou has been bashing President Obama since Day One! |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. "strong, principled, powerful, determined voices will change minds." |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. LBJ thought it was smart to shun the left. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #50 |
90. He only shunned the left when it came to imperialism and war |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
52. The Tea Party is an astroturf group funded by the Kochs. Money can accomplish miracles in the US. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
61. IMO, the "broader left" shares blame, for allowing itself to become so fragmented... |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. not exactly. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. So, you have a candidate in mind yet? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #82 |
101. i'm not getting ahead of myself. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #101 |
114. What's lame is propagating this 'down with Obama' campaign without offering any alternative |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:38 AM Response to Reply #114 |
122. i'm sorry you're either too disabled.... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #82 |
112. Elizabeth Warren. nt |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Great idea, only prob is US voters seeming distrust (and/or resentment) of high IQ candidates... |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
64. the left NEVER gets more than a bone or crumbs. |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
65. So who will lead us if not President Obama? |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. This is a HUGH1111 point. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
69. That's funny!!! Daou worked for the epitome of the Democratic establishment aka. DLC Hillary2008. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #69 |
91. Daou may be a jerk, but that doesn't mean that the OP was wrong |
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PeteNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #91 |
108. Believe it or not, I'm not a jerk |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Zing! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
120. He's not a jerk, but, he did compromise himself, imo, when he agreed to work for Hillary. He's |
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sandyshoes17 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
71. We should have spent |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
73. K&R |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
78. Garbage. The Tea Party is just a new name for the same far right |
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FunMe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
94. TEA BAGGERS ... that's what they are called |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. Absolutely |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-03-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
81. A REC for Mr. Daou's commentary. nt |
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FunMe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
93. Hell is going to break lose in November 2012. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
95. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, and kicked. |
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Gin Blossom (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
96. The symbiotic relationship |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:38 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. +1. very sick of repeatedly hearing how stupid americans are here at du, |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
100. K&R |
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Mr Gerrity (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
105. It Couldn't Be More Obvious +1 |
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PeteNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
107. Hissyspit - thanks for posting my piece. Responses... |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. Thank you for contributing to the community. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-04-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
113. This is the clearest, most concise, and most relevant |
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123. The only thing he left out |
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