'Uncle Pat' Buchanan repeats his racial slur this morning on Morning Jerk.

[deminks]

He talks about Sharpton's show last night where he called the President "boy". He does not apologize, says it is a boxing term, not a racial term, says no racism intended or stated.

Would he have called Bush "our boy"? Would he have called St. Ronnie "boy"?

MSNBC must get rid of him. Now. There have been way too many slurs. Pat Buchanan does not contribute to the "lean forward" theme.

Let 'em know:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/

[malaise]

1. M$NBComcast wants him there

or he would have been fired ages ago. He is 'their boy'.

[City Lights]

31. Well said!

:thumbsup:

[PCIntern]

2. He is the closest thing we have to a real Nazi on TeeVee...

David Duke doesn't have the exposure...

[liberalla]

16. Not for lack of trying, though. Buchanan worked to advance Duke's issues.

Buchanan Urged The GOP To "Take A Hard Look At Duke's Portfolio Of Winning Issues."

Buchanan: David Duke "Zeroes In On Issues That Should Be A Wake-Up Call For All Our Big-Government Conservatives."

Buchanan: "This Has Been A Country Built, Basically, By White Folks."

Buchanan: Hitler "Was Also An Individual Of Great Courage."

Buchanan: "Was World War II Worth It? ... Why Destroy Hitler?"

Buchanan Wrote Foreword To Book Compiling Works Of A White Supremacist.

Buchanan Relied On White Supremacists For Research In Work.



These are from Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/research/201107290005#longhistory">The Bigotry of Pat Buchanan
There's background and links for each of the above.


More: http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201108020025">Pat Buchanan: Endorsed by White Nationalists   AKA his political base.

[SusanaMontana41]

3. Good God. The guy keeps setting record lows. n/t

[Supersedeas]

23. same ole Pat

[Glimmer of Hope]

4. A boxing term? Is it really?

[Capitalocracy]

13. news to me.

well, let's see, last year I transcribed all the audio commentary clips for a boxing video game, didn't hear the term "boy" once. Can't say I'm an expert, but I've never heard that one before.

[H2O Man]

25. No.

(See post #21)

I boxed 329 fights. I trained and managed amateur and professional fighters. I have watched more fights in the past 50 years than I could begin to estimate. I have been on tv, radio, been covered and wrote for boxing magazines, and write for a boxing internet site. It is not a "boxing term."

There have been, and stillare, plenty of racist shitheads involved in the Great Sport. They may use such a term amongst themselves. But it is exclusively as racists, not as the boxing community.

[ProfessorGAC]

35. I've Never Heard It Either

I'm with you. I only had 73 fights, all amateur. But, i never heard that term used by anybody at any time.
GAC

[Demstud]

42. I've heard it a lot, but still sounded racist to me

Not so much with boxing specifically, but some talk like that quite frequently when talking sports with fans. I've heard it here in Ohio among co-workers especially in football season :-P Also, some of my southern family members will say that sometimes when talking spots, competition, or just about someone in your circle (if they're a younger acquaintance or clearly the less dominate one in the relationship). Now with Buchanon I heard it as racist mostly because 1. It came out of the mouth of Pat Buchanon and 2. He was talking about our 50 year old black President of the United States rather than the QB of a college sports team.

Maybe Buchanon didn't mean it in a racist manner, I'm not psychic, but given his well deserved reputation I find it's easy to jump to that conclusion and think the worst of his comment.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Look, I Use The Term Myself

When i play at my club, i play alone about half the time. I'm a very fast player and i play pretty well, so when a group sees me coming, they wait to let me play through. (BTW: Talking golf.)

When they let me go through, i always say "Thank you, boys." I know for sure i'm not racist.

But, Buchanan said it was a boxing term. Waterman and i have had significant experience in that field and neither of us heard that word used the way Buchanan suggests.

And, you're right: Given his track record it's easy to conclude that it was intentional and coded.
GAC

[H2O Man]

51. I've heard it

before -- by one person involved in the Great Sport. He had just lost an upset to one of my fighters, and was very, very angry. He was using the term in an absolutely racist way. It had nothing to do with boxing; it was because an unknown black youth had taken three out of three rounds from a previously undefeated white "Golden Boy" .... who had the nerve to have the theme to "Rocky" played when he entered the ring in his hometown.

I had tried to secure a bout against him for over two years. It was not going to happen. So I trained a kid who was 0-2 at the time, and taught him exactly how to handle poor "Rocky." Now, Friend P-GAC, you know that any 0-2 fighter brought in to fight in a main event against an undefeated home-town hero is supposed to be a sacrificial lamb. Ha! Surprise, surprise.

After the end of the fight, the loser came over and started giving me shit about "tricking" him, and calling my fighter a number of names, includinmg "boy." I said that the fight proved who was a man, and who was a boy.

[ProfessorGAC]

52. Great Story

And, i think most anybody can tell when "boy" is used as a racist insult and just as a word. I know for sure you know who to tell the difference.

GAC

[peacebird]

5. my letter to M$NBC

Pat Buchanan's referring to the President as "boy" on this morning's show was racist and totally unacceptable. I grew up in the south, saw the KKK signs, the separate drinking fountains, and heard black men derided as "boy". Pat is of that generation. He knows exactly what he is saying. It is wrong, disrespectful of the office of President, and he should be removed from the airwaves. He certainly does not "lean forward", he "harkens back".

[sea_dream]

47. Send letters and emails

I did.

[Tennessee Gal]

6. Pat knows exactly what he said and why he said it.

That wasn't an apology of any kind. It was an attempt to defend ignorance and hatred.

[Dappleganger]

32. +10000

[whathehell]

7. Interesting that someone would "unrec" this...Do we have Pat Buchanan fans here?

Most interesting.:eyes:

[dipsydoodle]

10. Not necessarily associated

Unreccing occurs for a variety of reasons.

Aside from that "boy" is a despicable expression so I rec'd the post.

[whathehell]

38. Really? Perhaps you could

give us some examples of these reasons

as they'd pertain to this topic.

[dipsydoodle]

43. Not to this topic I can't

Could be poster associated but that is not an accusation. Some here are anti some posters due to something else they've posted in the past or in the knowledge they are on that posters ignore list. Like I said - there are lots of reasons why some unrec the post of others and the reasons do not necessarily reflect the topic.

It also possible in this case that someone simply hit the wrong button.

[whathehell]

44. No, I can't think of any either...

but your post seemed to suggest otherwise.

No offense, but, since I've been here awhile, I don't

really need a "primer" on "rec" and "unrec" issues. :hi:

[Chimichurri]

8. tar baby, boy, tea party. The Republicans have come out of the closet.

[fishwax]

45. don't forget "coonskin"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1648681

[Chimichurri]

46. Oh for cryin' out loud. Just despicable.

[digitaln3rd]

9. Don't like Pat but come on.

This is really reaching.... "boy" is now a racial slur? Come on. Enough with the PC stuff..

[Capitalocracy]

12. You're not too familiar with racism, are you?

I'd have to hear the actual clip, which I haven't, to determine whether this particular case appears racist, but yes, calling a black man "boy" in certain contexts is very much racist, and widely recognized as such.

[polmaven]

15. No, it is not NOW a racial slur..

It always has been, unless the subject of the discussion is actually a child. And, even then, the context needs to be considered.

How old are you that you don't know this?

[Dappleganger]

30. LOL, last time I asked someone how old they were

I was accused of 'ageism', go figure. I asked with the same intention as you, to figure out if they were old enough to understand where it came from. :shrug:

[Dappleganger]

29. It is very racist.

In the context I heard him say earlier as well as this morning, it is very racist. I am from the South and can tell you that there is never ever a proper setting for a white male calling any black adult male "boy".

[Dawgs]

36. How old are you, 10?

Because, the only time "boy" is not a racial slur is when it's used to describe a child.

It's a very old racist term used all over this country.

Watch any movie, new or old, about Southern racism if you still don't believe it.

[lunatica]

11. Pugnacious racism is so cute

It makes me want to pinch his cheeks. Hard.

[SusanaMontana41]

17. That visual, before breakfast, is not appreciated. n/t

[monmouth]

14. A "boxing term????" Seriously??? I think M$NBC received a load

of e-mails last night. I notified Jersey friends and relatives and they promised to mail them also. This is CYA on behalf of Pat. I won't watch M$NBC again, until he's gone. I can catch highlights of Rachel and Lawrence on DU..

[Botany]

18. Pat is an ass; MSNBC knows what they are getting w/ him

As a young man he and his brothers used to beat up jewish kids coming home from school ..... dad got 'em all
boxing lessons.

He has said that Churchill forced Hitler to start WW II & that the north forced the confederates to attack Ft. Sumter.

He is also on record that the civil war was not about slavery.

And at the RNC 1992 Pat said the following:

"The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose on America--abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court, homosexual rights,
discrimination against religious schools, women in combat--that's change, all right. But it is not the kind of change America wants. It is
not the kind of change America needs. And it is not the kind of change we can tolerate in a nation that we still call God's country."

[liberalla]

22. He's an equal opportunity hater.

He's ANTI-everything: Jews, Women, Gays, African Americans, Mexicans,
other people of color, Immigration, School Integration...

Buchanan: "America Committing Suicide" While "Asian, African, And Latin American Children Come To Inherit The Estate."

http://mediamatters.org/research/201107290005#longhistory">The Bigotry of Pat Buchanan   (updated last week)

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2553">Pat Buchanan in His Own Words   (from 1996)

[madrchsod]

19. lowest rated morning show on the teevee...

about 175,000. let the show`s sponsors know what you think of them.

[Zywiec]

20. Yet every day we get several reports of what he's saying throughout the morning.

Seems to be the highest rated morning show on the Teevee here...

[H2O Man]

21. I know quite a bit

about boxing. It is NOT a boxing term.

[Dappleganger]

33. Thank you.

[Riley18]

24. Thanks for the link. Pat has to go.

[w8liftinglady]

26. i didn't see it,but don't forget advertisers

that's how beck lost his job

[Bluenorthwest]

27. Here is a link to lots of Uncle Pat's quotes. Back to the 70's

This way everyone can see what MSNBC and every last person who called him Uncle Pat for a dollar knew about him all along. This is cute, that you all think this is new territory for Pat, but some of us have refused to abide him for many years. Welcome to the party, late comers!
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2553

Ready 'em and weep.

[whathehell]

39. OMG....Even I didn't know he was THIS bad...Everyone take a peek at Uncle Pat's quotes.

FWIW, I sent a complaint to MSNBC and asked them

why PB was still on their payroll, and I suggested

that he "must know where the bodies were buried"

or they'd never keep someone like Mr. Right Wing employed.

[whathehell]

41. I can't believe this: He actually wrote a column "defending" Hitler?!

OMG...He MUST know where the bodies are buried at MSNBC

to be continually employed there...Effing A, he actually

seems to defend Hitler and David Duke in his columns!!?!

Like I said -- Even I didn't know he was this bad.

[fishwax]

49. quite a collection there

:puke:

[Mr Dixon]

28. Ratings

MSNBC nor any other media outlet cares about right or wrong, just ratings.

[Bluenorthwest]

34. Well they must not be happy then, because the vast majority of

the viewing nation has never even heard of 'Morning Joe' and not even half a million people watch it ever. There are over 300 Million Americans. Fewer people watch that show than watch many local market morning shows which air in one city. A 'Good Day LA' has an audience far larger than any 'cable news' Morning show. Forget about GMA or whatever.
'Ratings' is not really the correct term for cable, they have numbers, and some demographics, but in cable they do not really 'rate' the shows in comparison to one another. The do not have 'the number one show at 8 pm on cable'. They do not compare the standing of a 'news' show to a comedy show, or to reruns of cartoons, or to anything but itself. Note the FoxNews rhetoric 'number one in cable news'. That does not mean 'number one in TV news'. Oh no. It also does not mean 'number one show on cable' nor even 'number one in the time slot'. They mean they do a bit better than CNN and MSNBC. That is it. Number one out of three, and if you total the entire viewership of the three you wind up with fewer people than are tuned in to a rerun of Tyler Perry's House of Payne.
Total the entire 6 o clock cable audience and you get a fraction of what one network draws. The three Networks each draw several million to their news broadcasts. So ratings wise, when Fox says number one, understand that their version of 'number one' draws about 700,000 people while about 20 Million are watching the three networks combined.
Ratings are as ratings are. MSNBC should simply be looking for an audience.

[Dawgs]

37. Pat thinks it's a "boxing term" cause he's heard his racist friends use it to describe black boxers.

This guy says something racist EVERY SINGLE TIME HE'S ON TV.

MSNBC should be ashamed.

[MilesColtrane]

40. Swamp Rat said it best.

[warrior1]

50. done.