There is a revolution brewing...

[OKDem08]

that's about all I read any more that gives me an inkling of hope : )

Love ya DU

:grouphug:

[villager]

1. unrecc'd by those who prefer hopelessness. And they have twitchy unrec thumbs!

Here's a non-unrec thumb for your post!

:thumbsup:

[Firebrand Gary]

2. I think that you are right.

I no longer give a damn about the Democratic party, I give a damn about the interest of the Progressive movement only. We shall primary every Democrat that we have to.

[gateley]

6. Against DU rules, Gary -- nt

[Bluebear]

11. Supporting progressives for elected office is against DU rules now?

[Le Taz Hot]

14. I got a post deleted the other day

when I stated, "I vote for progressives." :shrug:

[Bluebear]

15. Looks like you know who alerted!

[Shandris]

18. We don't allow that sorta thing anymore.

:silly: :hi:

[Blecht]

17. No, he used the word "primary,"

so he's not advocating for a third-party candidate against a current Democrat. Instead, he's asking for people to enter primaries (as Democrats) to get rid of the bad Democrats that make him despise the party.

And that would place what he wrote within the rules. At least that's how I interpret what he wrote. (Disclaimer: I am not now, nor have I ever been, a moderator at DU.)

[FiveGoodMen]

19. But shouldn't be.

We ought to be fighting for democracy, not for a bunch of sell-outs who've co-opted the name.

[Divernan]

20. No, because they'd have to be Democrats to run in the prmaries.

They would just be progressive Democrats running against those damned Blue Dogs

[readmoreoften]

3. That is the true hope. All those people at O's inauguration: that's where the power lies. In them.

Not him. There are 300 million or so poor and working class people in this country. They can't immiserate all of us. We can take a cue from Egypt. They banished a dictator and now they're fighting the muslim brotherhood backed military in the streets. All the socialist parties have come together to form one party and the movement is growing again for a second round. We are the hope.

[Newest Reality]

4. If you look around,

there are already many, mini-revolutions of many kinds. Some are experiments, others are movements and they are peaceful and cover many aspects of life in ways that recognize what we need and why.

We could give-up on mass media and the mind massages of the current system in a way that brings local changes that do not support or condone the current Wealthuglican road to Serfdom that appears to be an inevitable Banana Republic at the current rate.

Are we that convinced that we need them? Let them sit around and play games while we make changes that can change our models from profit to what benefits humans and life on this planet, considering how crucial the situation is concerning resources and the survivability of our biosphere.

Look around online and you might be surprised to see what is emerging.

[green prol]

13. Amen to that!

My area is bursting with new energy to create just, sustainable and caring community. The real economy derives from We The People and by disengaging from the nightmare, we are building evergrowing islands of sanity, the new world dream.
The old world is dying. Here is to the Phoenix! :toast:

[moondust]

5. Al Gore: We need our own Arab Spring.

Either Monday or Tuesday night on Countdown.

[tblue]

9. American Spring!

I was so happy to see him again. I think he was bring very careful in some of what he said. But it wasn't hard to teas between the lines.

[wundermaus]

7. The flow of liberty runs ever deeper and the current of humanity is stronger...

than ever.

Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.

Sir Winston Churchill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj4J6i_vw0w

[Kablooie]

8. I don't think so.

At least not yet.
The effects of recent decisions have to be felt before it can happen.
The expectation of future suffering isnt enough to motivate a population.

[DeSwiss]

10. K&R

So if we are talking change through revolt, we're necessarily talking about deconditioning because the thing we fear already has a life deep in our own consciousness. Deconditioning from cultural ignorance is at the heart of any insurrectionary politics. Deconditioning also involves risk and suffering. But it is transformative, freeing the self from helplessness and fear. It unleashes the fifth freedom, the right to an autonomous consciousness. That makes deconditioning about as individual and personal act as is possible. Maybe the only genuine individual act.

Once unencumbered by self-induced and manufactured cultural ignorance, it becomes clear that politics worldwide is entirely about money, power and national mythology, with or without some degree of human rights. America still has all of the above to one degree or another. Yet for all practical purposes, such as advancing the freedom and the well being of its own people, the American republic has collapsed.

Of course, there is still money to be made by the already rich. So the million or so people who own the country and the government use their control to convince us that there is no collapse, just economic and political problems that need to be solved. Naturally, they are willing to do that for us. Consequently, the economy is discussed in political terms, because the government is the only body with the power to legislate, and therefore render the will of the owning class into law.

But politics and money are never going to fill what is essentially a public vacuum that is moral, philosophical and spiritual. (The latter was instantly recognized by fundamentalist Christians, disfigured by cultural ignorance, as they may be.) Not many ordinary Americans talk about this vacuum. The required spiritual and philosophical language has been successfully purged by newspeak, popular culture, a human regimentation process masquerading as a national educational system, and the ruthlessness of everyday competition, which leaves no time to contemplate anything.

Still, the void, the meaninglessness of ordinary work and the emptiness of daily life scares thinking citizens shitless, with its many unspeakables, spy cams, security state pronouncements, citizens being economically disappeared, and general back-of-the-mind unease. Capitalism's faceless machinery has colonized our very souls. If the political was not personal to begin with, it's personal now.

Some Americans believe we can collectively triumph over the monolith we presently fear and worship. Others believe the best we can do is to find the personal strength to endure and go forward on lonely inner plains of the self. Doing either will take inner moral, spiritual and intellectual liberation. It all depends on where you choose to fight your battle. Or if you even choose to fight it. But one thing is certain. The only way out is in.

http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/12/america-y-ur-peeps-b-so-dum.html">~Joe Bageant (1946-2011), "America Y UR Peeps B So Dum?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Ni7vc2412hY&vq=large">PEACE OR WAR TIME TO CHOOSE

[villager]

12. and +1 for Bageant

:thumbsup:

[trayfoot]

16. The sooner, the better!