Do you think the rightwingnuts started to visibly attack unions this year to bait

[applegrove]

union people into attacking the corporation - thus isolating union people from the middle class (who have retirement funds in corporations). Is it just a wedge to make the Democratic 'big tent' smaller? Cause they really did go public with their attack on unions in WI. Wedging primarily union people from primarily savings in stocks and bonds middle class people may be on order. Remember the GOP does not quite have the 'big tent' they need for endless super majorities. If they can separate the people with savings in equities from the dwindling union members - they win.

[OHdem10]

1. Could it be Union Busting is the means to an end. --the end being

making it possible for Business to employ "cheap labor"
in this country?? The Middle Class loses salary almost
annually. This has been going on for over a decade.
Globalization has as overall goal the equalization
of living standards around the world. Mismanaged
globalization and therefore poorly managed trade policies
have permitted America to be gutted of Mfg Base and
now Hi Tech is in danger. You either harmonize the
3rd world up by raising their living standards or
you lower the 1st World by lowering their living standards.
We promised they would raise 3rd World. Oh yeah.
This is part of what is going on right now. What
were some of the best paying jobs for Middle Class:
UNION JOBS. Bust Unions so salaries can be lowered.
Get Salaries low enough and Business stays here instead
going to China, Asia, etc. Yes the Republicans will get
us jobs.

Right now here in the USA, have you noticed how even
the Media (except for Tweety) keep repeating how Gov.
Perry Texas possible Pres. Candidate has created all these
jobs. Closer examination reveals minimum wage and lower
paying jobs. Texas is near the very bottom in Education,
poor record Health Care, low wages and other quality of
life issues. Texas is being held as an example.
Think about it America's Future.

Just some thoughts on Union Busting.

[applegrove]

2. Oh union busting is horrible and has been going on for 30 years. Yes they were

great jobs. But the GOP needs majorities to end unions and depress wages even more. They can't get that without a few more wedges. And they need to get the middle class to fight within itself to garner those votes.

[AndyTiedye]

3. That is Playing the Newly Poor Against What is Left of the Middle Class

It has worked really well for them.

[applegrove]

4. If we are all fighting against each other then we are not fighting them. I hope this wedge doesn't

work and all middle class people stick together. We need each other.

[Selatius]

8. Regardless of what happens, we win in the long-run. Think about it.

With the way things are going, there won't be a middle class much longer. When the population loses what little is left, yeah, it will likely be ripping itself apart, but on the other hand, it would also look for new targets to lash against, and the only other really big target in the room are the rich barons who run corporate empires and live behind their high walls and gates. They'll be targeted as well.

It is truly a situation of Mutually Assured Destruction. The only problem is the rich have forgotten that if they make the life of the population miserable, it will eventually strike back. They want to go ahead and push the red button, and they'll take down plenty of us doing so, but in the end, their world will be reduced to ashes as well in the firestorm of workers' rage.

The biggest tragedy is that things should never have gotten to that point.

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[saras]

6. Getting the middle class to invest their retirement in corporations was the (successful) attack

[Selatius]

7. Which would be one more reason to DESTROY Social Security.

Without SS being a backstop against abject poverty in old age, people would become much more dependent upon corporate stocks and bonds as a means of income. People would be that much more beholden to corporate barons. It would be neo-feudalism in my opinion.

[indurancevile]

9. +1

[applegrove]

10. It makes for a good income now that growth within the USA is 2% and in India & China 10% (where the

corporations have business). It means that those middle class people get to participate in the boom times that are taking place outside the USA. Why begrudge them. They only want to retire well and they worked hard to save all that money. The problem is that the corporations have started to attack institutions that make America great like unions, and public schools, and middle class people. So American corporations need to be controlled and regulated.