The Super Congress perfectly Sets Up ANOTHER Hostage Situation.

[bvar22]

The WORST part of the New Super Congress is the No Amendments, Up or Down vote,
because that will allow them to put in some crumb like the Unemployment Extension Scam
to give cover for those casting a YES vote.

This perfectly sets up ANOTHER Hostage Situation,
which has been the very successful Kabuki for moving this country to the FAR RIGHT.
It has worked EVERY TIME so far.


THEN we will get to hear all the sorry excuses that have become so familiar,
as those who have sold us out Pose and Preen before the TV cameras,
patting each other on the back and congratulating each other for their courage,
while they expand their plans for the New Summer Home.

"I am on record for protecting Social Security, but I had to vote FOR this overall package." (because of the crumb)

"Why do you hate the unemployed?" (Or whoever this particular crumb will go to)

"This is "historic" reform legislation, look at all the good (crumbs) we got!"

"We couldn't let the Perfect be the Enemy of the Good."

"This is the best we could do under the circumstances."

"We didn't have the votes."

"This is a Step Forward."

"Today, we saved our children from a crushing deficit."

"We needed to get something done NOW."

"We will Fix it Later."

"Its ALL Joe Lieberman's fault."

"The American People wanted us to do this."

"We are HEROES for Standing Up to the Special Interests." (like Old people)


Get Ready.
It is coming.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

[OhioChick]

Rec n/t

[readmoreoften]

1. We should have a preemptive contest on guessing the upcoming DLC talking points.

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[aquart]

7. Welcome to DU.

May your brief stay be a happy one.

[RoccoR5955]

3. I can't wait for the first hurricane to hit Texas or Florida,

and then the President has to say that he cannot give them disaster relief, because we are working on a "balanced budget."
Perhaps then, they will realize that sometimes governments have to work at a slight deficit, if only to provide disaster relief to people.
These people are just so short sighted, it's not funny. The only time that they learn is when they get hurt. Pitiful.

[johnaries]

19. There are specific clauses allowing exemptions for emergencies

and disasters in the bill.

[dtexdem]

4. As long as the GOP conrols the House, we're in a continuous hostage situation.

U.S. budget? Hostage situation.

Substantive legislation? The hostages will be killed.

[Ikonoklast]

5. Let's teach them a lesson and stay home next election!

That'll show 'em!

[bvar22]

6. Only as long as The Leadership WANTS a Hostage Situation.

*

[Ikonoklast]

8. Riiiight.

They did it all on purpose, riiiight.






This guy agrees with you.

[bvar22]

9. If that all you got, then... LOL

Hard Day in the Coal Mine?
Its GOTTA be hard work putting Lipstick on THIS Pig of a Debt Deal.
16 Tons and What do ya Get?



BTW:THIS guy really does agree with YOU!

Grover Norquist Backs The New Debt Deal

Have a Nice Day.

[RC]

11. That guy is the poster boy for Sedition

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.
Contents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

[bvar22]

12. Oh, I agree.

So WHY is the Democratic Party Leadership dancing to Grover's tune?

[RC]

27. Because they are not really Democrats?

We only have one party.

[EFerrari]

13. Wait -- wasn't that Lawrence O'Donnell's BRILLIANT analysis?

[bvar22]

14. It will be a long time before O'Donnell lives THAT one down.

The O'Donnell Rope-A-Dope Strategy:
Obama Confused the Republicans by going further to The RIGHT then they were willing to go.
Brilliant.
The only thing missing from the Rope-A-Dope strategy was the Knock Out Punch at the end.

Without a Knock-Out Punch,
Rope-A-Dope is just timidly hanging on the ropes, not fighting back,
and letting the other guy beat you to death.

Yep,
O'Donnell will remember THAT one of a long time,
and I will be glad to help him remember.

He does appear to be compensating for the Rope-A-Dope embarrassment last week.
He blasted the Big Debt Ceiling Deal last night.

[EFerrari]

15. Wait -- are you saying the Washington Post did not make this up

and O'Donnell is not briliant?

My world is collapsing around me.

[amborin]

10. undermines representative democracy, for starters

[QC]

16. That's the whole point. Now we can have one hostage drama after another. n/t

[rucky]

17. And think about how cheap it will be to buy off 7 politicians

instead of hundreds.

[Karmadillo]

18. Oh that Ralph Nader. He ruined it for all of us forever.

nt

[johnaries]

21. Yes, he did. If not for him Gore would have clearly won FL

and the issue would never have gone to SCOTUS. If SCOTUS had never selected Bush, we wouldn't be in this mess. So, yes, Nader f*cked us all.

[Karmadillo]

25. Gore blames Clinton

nt

[johnaries]

20. You mean like tax increases on the wealthy? nt

[bvar22]

23. Yeah,

Hold your breath for THAT one.
Please.

[scarletwoman]

22. Questions that must be asked about the Super Congress:

Will they have capes?

Will they wear their underpants on the outside of their tights?

Will they be able to leap tall buildings in a single bound?

I think the left better get busy and find some kryptonite.

sw

[bvar22]

24. +1

The Super Congress...
Fighting for
TRUTH,
Justice,
and the "Uniquely American Solution!"

LOL

[BzaDem]

26. What's the hostage in this case? In the debt ceiling case, it was our full faith and credit.

In this case, it is a trigger that guts defense massively but doesn't touch entitlement benefits or programs for the poor. And nothing changes until 2013. So I don't think it will be nearly the hostage situation you claim. That doesn't mean they might not try to pass bad stuff; I just don't think this has as much to do with hostages.