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dorksied Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:21 PM
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The dawn of SUPERCORRUPTION in our government
Our government has been corrupt for a long time. But now, with an appointment of 12 to this supercongress, lobbyists have a new place to dump VAST amounts of money into.

This unconstitutional and flagrant abuse of power in creating this body WILL have ramifications.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/exclusive/debt-ceiling-deal-sets-off-lobbying-frenzy-160406928.html
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:26 PM
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1. ...because Congress has never vested decision making to Committees...
...or limited the ability of legislation to be amended on the Floor? (how many amendments were allowed to the Debt Limit bill?).

If Congress wants to change its mind, they can change the Law anytime they want.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:28 PM
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2. I don't believe this "Super Congress" is Constitutional! ...
This is different than any thing else they have done!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:35 PM
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3. They think they're unstoppable now
They may be right.

Look how much of DU(!) still lines up to defend this atrocity.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:36 PM
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4.  Good article questioning the constitutionality of "Super Congress"
Edited on Tue Aug-02-11 03:36 PM by Little Star

http://www.tcfacts.com /

Is this what is has come to?

WASHINGTON -- Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.

This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.

Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has made a Super Congress a central part of his last-minute proposal, multiple news reports and people familiar with his plan say. A picture of Boehner's proposal began to come into focus Saturday evening: The debt ceiling would be raised for a short-term period and coupled with an equal dollar figure of cuts, somewhere in the vicinity of a trillion dollars over ten years. A second increase in the debt ceiling would be tied to the creation of a Super Congress that would be required to find a minimum amount of spending cuts. Because the elevated panel would need at least one Democratic vote, its plan would presumably include at least some revenue, though if it's anything like the deals on the table today, it would likely be heavily slanted toward spending cuts. Or, as Obama said of the deal he was offering Republicans before Boehner walked out, "If it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue."


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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:36 PM
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5. we're gonna need
a superduper congress to counteract this.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:54 PM
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6. There is no "Supercongress"
Unless, of course, we're just gonna let the GOP frame everything in their own shit from now on.
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