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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:48 AM Original message |
LOL! Remember when we had the House, Senate AND Presidency and still couldn't get shit done? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. We passed a crappy health care insurance reform bill. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Sadly, there is that. I'm just waiting till that shit kicks in full-swing. |
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Proles (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Maybe if the insurance companies |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That will be undone. Count on it. n/t |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. And we had to "use" budget reconciliation for that, which screwed us... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. You have to have an intervening budget pass to use reconciliation again |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. My disabled brother will have subsidies to buy "insurance". What's wrong with that? |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. WTF happened? |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well now we probably see why. |
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mwrguy (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. How the hell does that happen? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yet they get EVERYTHING they want AND a jar of Nutella |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Mmmm |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. just wait until the gop has control of them |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Oh fuck no. They declare mandates and political capital and issue executive orders |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
11. If we ever get back on top, God I hope they've learned to stop |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
12. The Senate should have ended the filibuster on Jan. 21, 2009. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Exactly. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
42. The country could recover from this mistake any time Congress begins anew. n/t |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
13. On the bright side, if the Repukes manage to create a dictatorship of the House |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
14. Do you mean the 49 DAYS that we had a true majority in the Senate? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. If the Repukes had the Triple Crown, they'd fuck the world in an afternoon. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. So you have redefined the word "majority" to mean 60% now instead of 51%? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. It takes 60 votes in the Senate to invoke cloture in order to get bills passed. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Actually there is only one definition of majority and |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. They could have used the budget reconciliation process, which requires only 50 votes in the Senate. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Aren't many of the senate rules open to change at the beginning of each |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. They didn't need any rule changes but rather the desire to work for us instead of corporate donors. |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
17. We NEVER had the House, people. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. "comfortable" majority? Isn't a majority still pretty much more than |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Yes, the Dems had the majority. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. You may want to try counting again. (nt) |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yeah... Their Were Enough Republicrats/Democons To Fuck The Whole Enchilada... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
19. that time was wasted |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. He needed 60 votes!!!$" |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Yeah, that's why the climate bill failed. Are you happy about that, bluebear |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
21. How many of them are there? One thing I've learned from |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. +1 |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. +1000 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. Right -- now GOP has the House majority ... and they win everything -- !!! What farce!! |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. The GOP is NOT winning 'everything'. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Not yet -- !! But Obama's permitted them to take emphasis off economy/jobs and stimulus -- !! |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Most of their "winnings" have died in the Senate |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. You mean 1993? No universal health then either. 1977? What ever happened to the ERA? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
27. that's because there are many parts of the country where only Conservatives can win |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Doubt there ever was a "Southern Strategy" ... think there has only been Diebold computers ... !! |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. No, there are many parts of the country where we only try conservative politics |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
31. Ah yes...the good old days ! |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Indeed. Nomatter who gets elected, we get every turn in the barrel. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. True -- we might think of giving up the Prez and Senate -- and just control the HOUSE ... !!! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. Seriously. It makes me sick to think about it. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
38. Our fucking system is a joke. Puppets all. |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
40. No. I am only 44. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
41. But we didn't have 200 Senate seats! You can't get anything accomplished unless you control 200 |
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katnapped (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. And only on things where Republicans won't yell |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You're right! At a MINIMUM, 200 Senate seats, 900 House seats an BOTH presidencies. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. That's how you do it. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
45. Democrats do not march in lockstep |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
49. Thought experiment |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. That's an unconvincing and defeatist metaphor. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. It's more than theory -- violence and aggression will take us backwards every time ... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
56. Yes. |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
61. It's 11-Dimensional Chess. See how well it's worked so far? |
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bobdawg (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
62. and now a minority of the minority |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
63. Pissed away opportunities....will hurt Dems & country for decades. |
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