We are the Party of legalizing pot, they are the party of legalizing guns

[DainBramaged]

It's just that simple when you want to figure out who stands for what.

[liberal N proud]

1. We are the part of caring they are the party of hate

We focus on caring for man and the planet, the republicans focus on destroying everything that isn't theirs.

[Xenotime]

33. yes

[stray cat]

2. I hope those are not the key goals of each partty

[Fumesucker]

3. Oh bullshit, the national Democratic party has zero intention of legalizing pot..

There isn't a single fucking thing more "bipartisan" than the drug war, Joe Biden hisself thunk up the idea of a "drug czar"..

Gil Kerlikowske speaks for Obama on pot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil_Kerlikowske

Richard Gil Kerlikowske (born November 23, 1949) is the current Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, a position generally referred to as the United States "Drug Czar". He assumed office on May 7, 2009.

...

In a May 22, 2009 interview on KUOW radio, he said any drug 'legalization' would be "waving the white flag" and that "legalization is off the charts when it comes to discussion, from my viewpoint" and that "legalization vocabulary doesn't exist for me and it was made clear that it doesn't exist in President Obama's vocabulary." Specifically about marijuana, he said, "It's a dangerous drug" and about the medical use of marijuana, he said, "we will wait for evidence on whether smoked marijuana has any medicinal benefits – those aren't in."<16>

[FSogol]

4. +1. n/t

[DainBramaged]

9. You don't get it either, so sad..........

[Romulox]

39. Joe Biden sponsored the RAVE act, and wrote the law that put Tommy Chong in jail.

:hi:

[The_Commonist]

5. Guns are already legal.

And nobody has any intention of legalizing pot.

This OP is a fail...

[DainBramaged]

7. meh, of course it is, death is more important than life, meh meh meh

We know where you stand.

[The_Commonist]

37. No you don't.

You have no idea where I stand.
I have never and will most likely never own a gun.
I smoke pot almost every day, for the last 30 years.
You just got it wrong, that's all...

[hlthe2b]

6. Ugh Oh...the gungeoneers are emerging to pounce, DainBramaged

Hang on tight... It might become a rocky ride...;)

[DainBramaged]

8. Well, I can't see ignored people, and those that I can their point is moot

we are the party of life, they are the party of death, war, hate, you can keep piling up the words, but it all means the same. WE SUPPORT LIFE, THEY SUPPORT DEATH.

And boy were you right, moths to a flame.

[Fumesucker]

14. Sadly, they see it exactly opposite..

For those who simply cannot abide legal abortion Democrats are demons from hell..

I even know some of them that have themselves had legal abortions, they are not rational at all on this issue.

[Name removed]

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[Statistical]

11. Fail. You want to make guns illegal the Democratic party doesn't.

Neither does a super majority of Americans.

[TheKentuckian]

12. There is no party of legalizing pot

Sounds cool but is light years from true.

[mtnsnake]

28. Unfortunately, you are right.

It's a shame that the Democratic Party doesn't take a stand in favor of legalizing pot, but I guess that's what happens when you jump in bed with the pharmaceutical companies and the beer industry, same as the GOP has done for decades.

Imagine how much money the pharmaceutical and beer giants would stand to lose if pot was legalized. With pot being useful in so many medical ailments that people suffer from today, it would surely put a dent in the profits of the drug companies. And we all know how the beer companies feel about the possibility of losing billions, were pot legalized.

[DainBramaged]

61. We ALL need to smoke more.......

[TheKentuckian]

68. I'm trying...I'm really trying

[Skidmore]

13. Boy, that is simplistic.

How much thought did you give to that?

[DainBramaged]

15. And I thank you for your contribution......

:eyes:

[Ikonoklast]

16. Legal firearm ownership is supported by BOTH parties

Pot legalization is supoported by NEITHER.

Your OP is an outright fabrication, and needs to be taken down.

[DainBramaged]

17. Gee, is the concept too radical?

Free speech only extends to you? And what exactly do you mean by 'taken down'?

[Ikonoklast]

18. What concept?

What you stated is an outright fabrication.

[DainBramaged]

19. Let me spell it out

We are the Party of life, help, love, they are the party of war, death, money.

Does it make sense to you yet? Of course not.

[Ikonoklast]

22. Really.

How many wars have been fought by our government when it has been controlled by Democrats?

More than one, I can tell you.


You are ignoring reality.

[DainBramaged]

26. Sad. very sad. We here at DU are way more concerned with life than death

and most of America feels the same way. I understand how every time the word gun is mentioned in a post, you have to immediately assume it's an attack on YOUR RIGHT to own a gun, sadly you're wrong. We are the Party that protested in HUGE numbers the war in Iraq during the Booshe misadministration, I didn't see the Right-wing do ANYTHING but scream for blood.

You can believe what you like, and try to deflect the truth, but I won't try to 'take down' your right to express yourself as you so aptly wish to do to me.


Goodbye.

[Ikonoklast]

34. What you posted was an outright fabrication on your part.

And yet, you stand by it?

Republicans do that.

[DainBramaged]

35. You are trying way too hard way too hard.

And now I put you on ignore. Enjoy your life.

[Ikonoklast]

44. Again?

What is this, third time now?

:scared:

[Common Sense Party]

55. .

:spray:

:rofl:

[Fumesucker]

20. It's too disconnected from reality..

Both major national parties are fully wrapped up in the drug war hysteria, neither can lose their credibility by suddenly reversing almost eighty years of policy gospel, drugs are bad therefore drugs should be illegal.

There is too much bureaucratic inertia behind the drug war, too much money flowing through the various pipelines, too much influence and control that will be lost, neither major party will ever reverse themselves on it.

[Statistical]

21. Exactly the flipside of cost is profits.

When you hear the war on drugs (or terror, or xyz) costs $xx billion it is important to remember the Treasury doesn't pile up that money and light it on fire. It is payments to various people, entities, and corporations. Payments that affect their bottom line.

[mtnsnake]

29. It may be supported by both parties but it's a way of life for the GOP

That the Democratic Party hasn't done more to keep automatic firearms and handguns out of the hands of lunatics is just another sign of weakness.

[Statistical]

30. Automatic weapons have been regulated since 1934. The National Firearms Act.

That law has neither expired nor been repealed. Neither this shooting nor any other mass shooting in last 30 years involved automatic weapons.

[Xenotime]

51. Then what do you call something like this?

[Statistical]

53. It looks like a Springfield XD. It is most certainly not automatic. n/t

[beevul]

59. A semi auto pistol...

A semi-auto pistol with tactical laser and extended magazine.

[Ikonoklast]

32. Anything to fling at Democrats.

No logic in your post, as noted above, who used automatic weapons?

[beevul]

42. If your going to comment about automatic weapons...

If your going to comment about automatic weapons could you at least be bothered to know the basics of the subject matter, and demonstrate it, please?

[mtnsnake]

43. Piss off

Two other posters already let me know what experts they are in gun laws and now you have to pop in and show how brilliant you are, too? Gimme a fucking break pal. If you can't understand the simple point I was making without opening up some fucking gun bible on me, then it's you that's got the problem, not me.

[beevul]

58. So its ok to preach...

So its ok to preach while you don't know what your talking about...


Oh, and Im to piss off.


Got it.

[mtnsnake]

62. Must make you proud to pursue such trivial cases of semantics. I'll bet you're a genius (snicker)

[beevul]

63. When it comes to discussion,

When it comes to discussion, I was under the impression that being correct and accurate were important.

And when were talking about guns, what YOU call simple semantics, isn't simple semantics.

A semi-auto firearm is as different from an automatic firearm, as your finger is from your toe, functionally and legally.

I assume you don't say fingers when you discuss toes. Or is that just "trivial semantics" too?

Why should guns be any different, hmm?

[mtnsnake]

64. You must have zero to do

Otherwise you wouldn't waste so much time worrying about someone leaving out the word "semi" in semi-automatic.

Then again, it's you who is the genius, not me, so who am I to say. (snicker)

[mtnsnake]

38. You really know how to turn on the drama, don't ya.

Your OP is an outright fabrication, and needs to be taken down.

The OP stated an opinion. Good fucking grief, get over it.

[Ikonoklast]

41. OP is total BS, opinion or not.

Might as well of stated that the Moon is made of green cheese, just as fanciful and dis-associated from reality.


I thought Democrats dealt in factually-based opinions, not those based on lies.

"Some people say..."

Same BS.

[Renew Deal]

48. The OP is factually incorrect.

Though I don't think it needs to be removed.

[Renew Deal]

49. You are correct

And I think most people know that. I don't think the post needs to be deleted.

[Statistical]

23. Congresswoman Giffords was in favor of keeping firearms legal.

Not only that she was in favor of expanding those rights. She filed amicus briefs in support of both Heller & McDonald cases. She also was in favor on concealed carry.

Under your logic does that make her a Republican? Is she part of the party of death?

[Ikonoklast]

24. I would venture a guess and say most Democrats in Congress

have no problem with the legal ownership of firearms.

[stuntcat]

25. :)

they are indeed the party of the pathetic power-trip. I don't even watch the tv or news, it just horrifies me the invalid shit people argue over.

[DainBramaged]

27. I'd rather shoot one of these than a gun

[mtnsnake]

52. LOL

:evilgrin: :smoke:

[WI_DEM]

31. When did we become the party of legalizing pot?

[abq e streeter]

36. Our fomer right wing Governor, Gary Johnson, is one of the most vocal proponents of legalization

Virtually the entire state Democratic establishment, with our most recent gubernatorial candidate, Diane Denish being among the most outspoken, fell all over themselves to denounce him for this. I wish your OP was true, but wishing doesn't make it so. The Democratic party's leadership (and I use that term loosely) hasn't got the guts to support the end to the insanity of the "drug war" one bit more than the repubs.

[krabigirl]

66. Yep..he is libertarian-leaning though. I'd say libertarians on both sides of the fence are the ones

in favor.

[abq e streeter]

67. Yes, very much a libertarian

Just wanted to reluctantly (because I wish it weren't so) point out that Democratic politicians are overwhelmingly pro-"war on drugs" too.

[Romulox]

40. The President has surrounded himself with avowed Drug Warriors, like Joe Biden, AG Holder...

Where are you getting this "We are the Party of legalizing pot" from? :wtf:

[Supersedeas]

45. Extremists on the Left: peaceniks and tree-huggers; Extremists on the Right

Tim McVeigh, Bruce Ivins, and assassins that kill doctors who provide abortion services.


WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THE EQUIVALENCE?

[DainBramaged]

47. So if I hug a tree I'm to blame? Even while smoking pot?

:scared:

[Supersedeas]

50. Depends on who you ask? Chuckie Todd, Candy Crowley, John King, Mutt Lauer

all see the extremists on the Left as equivalent to the extremists on the Right.


Jon Stewart?

[Renew Deal]

46. We are? I don't think you've looked around the Democratic Party.

Or even what happened in California last year.

[Roundtree65]

54. The pot/schizophrenia connection

This guy had paranoid schizophrenia, and they say he was a heavy dope user beforehand. Plenty of people smoke weed and nothing happens to them.

But, for the genetically predisposed, pot can trigger mental illness. It is not harmless for all people. Today's weed has an immense amount of THC in it compared to decades past.

[DainBramaged]

56. A good point and may I say welcome to DU, the light at the end of the tunnel

:hi:

[slackmaster]

57. Logic fail. Guns are already legal.

Pot should be legal too.

[-..__...]

60. No on proposition 19...

Apparently these folks never got your memo...


Key Leaders


U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D)
*

U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D)
*

Attorney General Jerry Brown and Democratic Candidate for Governor (D)
*

Republican Candidate for Governor Meg Whitman
*

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom (D)
*

Los Angeles District Attorney and Republican Candidate for Attorney General Steve Cooley
*

San Francisco District Attorney and Democratic Candidate for Attorney General Kamala Harris (D)
*

Republican U.S. Senate Candidate Carly Fiorina
*

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger



http://www.noonproposition19.com/endorsements/leaders


Can anyone knowledgeable or familiar with the press in CA inform the OP how many of these newspapers are left leaning and/or usually endorse Democratic
candidates?...

http://www.noonproposition19.com/endorsements/test

[krabigirl]

65. We are? Seriously? Tell me then, why did no Democratic candidates in CA endorse prop 19?!

Face it, the Democratic Party is NOT for legalizing cannabis. Neither are the Republicans.