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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:00 PM
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Damn the Right is good at screwing up history.
Ever since I started debating the Right-wing I've noticed two things. 1. My blood pressure is going up really fast.2 They are complete idiots. I was arguing about the separation of Church and state and I pointed out that Jefferson was not a Christan and was a deist so the poster who replied to me(who claims to be an atheist, but i have my doubts) say this in response:"As I've said, I'm an atheist, a real one, not just some spoiled kid who hates any social restrictions on his compulsions to do whatever they want when they want, regardless of who is effected adversely by their action, no different in motivation from 'Libertarians' or other sociopaths who attempt to hide self-indulgence and egotistical narcissism behind some bizarre ideological handwaves and hoping it can pass as 'sophisticated intellectualism'.

The historical evidence is entirely against you; whether you like or not isn't of any concern. Attempting to make up your own facts is just intellectual laziness, pathetic bourgeois fashion slavery, and juvenile sniveling." Yeah if it was real life I would punched him the face, since its just online I'll simply ignore him. Oh and according to him Paine is not a founding father and the only type of Christianity Paine and the founders were against was European style.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:03 PM
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1. "Ever since I started debating the Right-wing.."


:)

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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:08 PM
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2. They have no need for facts or a common historical theme
imo conservatism is a cult mindset like a religion, they have faith and truckloads of victim complex, it's a siege mentality of us vs them. Intellectual cowards, lazy minded, and worst of all class traitors.

Before you get your blood pressure up arguing with assholes remember that the most blind people are the ones who have no interest in seeing in the first place.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:12 PM
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3. Just cite the Treaty of Tripoli and wash your hands of the mess.
If he ignores that particular document, that's his loss as anyone with eyes can read it for themselves.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:13 PM
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4. And the poster does not know the difference
between affect and effect.

Yup, I came to the conclusion a long time ago that right-wing-brained people like to be right regardless of the facts, and left-wing-brained people like to find out what is right even if it is opposite of what they thought. It is "be right" as opposed to "do right".

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:14 PM
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Refer the twit to the Jefferson Bible..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

Using a razor, Jefferson cut and arranged selected verses from the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in chronological order, mingling excerpts from one text to those of another in order to create a single narrative. Thus he begins with Luke 2 and Luke 3, then follows with Mark 1 and Matthew 3. He provides a record of which verses he selected and of the order in which he arranged them in his “Table of the Texts from the Evangelists employed in this Narrative and of the order of their arrangement.”

The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth begins with an account of Jesus’s birth without references to angels, genealogy, or prophecy. Miracles, references to the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, and Jesus' resurrection are also absent from The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth .<5> It does however include references to Noah's Ark, the Great Flood, the Tribulation, and the Second Coming, as well as Heaven, Hell, and the Devil. The work ends with the words: “Now, in the place where He was crucified, there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus. And rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.” These words correspond to the ending of John 19 in the Bible.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:14 PM
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5. Refer the twit to the Jefferson Bible..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

Using a razor, Jefferson cut and arranged selected verses from the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in chronological order, mingling excerpts from one text to those of another in order to create a single narrative. Thus he begins with Luke 2 and Luke 3, then follows with Mark 1 and Matthew 3. He provides a record of which verses he selected and of the order in which he arranged them in his “Table of the Texts from the Evangelists employed in this Narrative and of the order of their arrangement.”

The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth begins with an account of Jesus’s birth without references to angels, genealogy, or prophecy. Miracles, references to the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, and Jesus' resurrection are also absent from The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth .<5> It does however include references to Noah's Ark, the Great Flood, the Tribulation, and the Second Coming, as well as Heaven, Hell, and the Devil. The work ends with the words: “Now, in the place where He was crucified, there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus. And rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.” These words correspond to the ending of John 19 in the Bible.
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