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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:26 PM
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It's official - that right wing scumbag in Norway killed 80 children
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356
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At least 80 people died when a gunman opened fire at an island youth camp in Norway, hours after a bomb attack on the capital, Oslo, police say.

Oslo police are questioning a 32-year-old Norwegian man in connection with both attacks.

The man was arrested on tiny Utoeya island outside Oslo, where police say he opened fire on teenagers.

The earlier bomb attack killed at least seven people. The attacks are the worst Norway has seen since World War II.

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, whose Oslo offices were among those badly hit by the blast, described the attacks as "bloody and cowardly".
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Time to deal with these right wing terrorist monsters.
This is catastrophic. :cry: :cry:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:28 PM
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1. Guns don't kill people - right wingers do.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:59 PM
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25. Love it - I will have to remember that line !!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:01 PM
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26. We should have it put on t-shirts, bumper stickers.... you name it.
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:29 PM
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2. he needs to get dead
I hate monsters.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:30 PM
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4. How do you look at kids between 14 and 18
and open fire. How does ideology and hatred of the other cloud a person's vision in that way.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:55 PM
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23. I don't get it. Sociopath?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:17 PM
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28. RWer = sociopath. So yes.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:52 PM
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38. Appears a common thread.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:19 PM
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29. I said on another thread, McVeigh never looked his victims in the eyes. This asshole did via a scope
:grr:
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:30 PM
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3. Oh my God.
:cry:
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:30 PM
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5. Thank you for the update. n/t
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:31 PM
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6. I have been wondering if he acted alone
this is awful, my heart breaks for these poor people and their families.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:42 PM
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16. At this point...
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 09:48 PM by Chan790
there is no proof of any other involved parties (or so they've said. It would make sense to hide any such suspicions or proof until after you can sweep and arrest all or as-many such involved individuals though.)

Every counter-terrorist analyst I've read or heard has said the same thing...it'd be goddamned impossible to pull this kind of attack off as a lone-nut without months or years of planning; it'd be just about impossible to do it at-all as a lone-nut without tripping suspicion in those years or months. So...either he's the most-talented and the most-lucky terrorist in history or he had at-least some help, even if those people didn't know what he was planning until now.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:50 PM
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20. Still considering the possibility of Islamist aid.........
They're not always as confrontational towards each other as you might think.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:05 PM
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41. Give it a break. This guy hated Muslims
Yeah, I know there's occasionally a meeting of minds over the anti-Semitic thing, but that definitely doesn't seem to be the thing here. The guy was a far-right nationalist, not a neo-Nazi.

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:32 PM
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7. Truly horrific.
Dehumanizing people who oppose your views is how senseless violence like this can happen. How he translated that hatred to killing children is unfathomable.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:34 PM
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8. That's what frightens me
HOw can you hate like that - to kill innocent teenagers.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:40 PM
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13. The right wing in this country has been dehumanizing "liberals" and
democrats for years. This is what they do. They teach their followers to hate those who don't believe what they do. They say we're "godless", "commies", "babykillers", "terrorists" and on and on and on. I have no doubt that what happened in Norway today will happen here. The more the right wing media continues to spread their gospel to their true believers, the more in danger we all are.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:47 PM
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18. +1
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johnd83 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:35 PM
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9. REALLY?
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 09:36 PM by johnd83
The guy killed 80 children?? What the hell could make someone think that is a good idea??
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:20 PM
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30. Very easy. Very simple. He's a RWer, and anyone not a RWer needs to be
eliminated. Especially the CHILDREN of non-RWers.

Annthrax Coulter is a proponent of killing all liberals. Did you really think that sort of mindset couldn't cross national borders??
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johnd83 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:31 PM
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37. Ironic
I find this really ironic considering that the right wing references the holocaust so often. This mentality is what led to the rise of the Nazis in the first place and is really frightening.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:36 PM
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10. Oh, no! I was praying the lower number would be right.
How horrible. Those poor families. :(
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:37 PM
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11. I wonder how many of then drowned trying to escape
:cry: :cry:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:41 PM
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15. Mother Mary, I remember the people falling out of the Towers trying to escape.
Not a memory one wants to relive in any form.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:38 PM
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12. It's a good thing that they caught him right away
They probably saved many more lives.

I'm so sorry for all the deaths...
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:40 PM
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14. Our petty political squabbles pale to the horror and tragedy of this heartbreaking event
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 09:41 PM by LonePirate
My deepest sympathies and condolences are not nearly enough for the dozens of families who lost relatives today.

The human propensity for violence sickens me more and more with each passing day.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:44 PM
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17. Holy crap
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:49 PM
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19. Where does it say it was a right winger?
I haven't heard a definitive ID of the shooter yet.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:21 PM
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31. Here (link)
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:26 PM
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35. Well, his name and extreme RW affiliations have been reported by the Intnl media for hours now
Not that, within the Murdoch age of "journalism", I believe everything they are saying, but it is out there. Here is his pic, dickhead polo collar and all...



More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1552989
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:29 PM
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36. His name is Ander Behring Breivik.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 10:40 PM by Chan790
I had links to his Facebook and Twitter pages but they've been terminated.

He's blonde, blue-eyed, a RW nationalist, ultra-religious but non-denominational Christian. 32 years old. (Those are self-descriptors.)

Obcessed with Tolstoy, hunting, classical music, freemasons, fitness, "Norwegian purity". Listed Dexter as his favorite show and Dexter Morgan as an inspirational figure.



He's a loony. I stopped trying to understand once they said he was obsessed w/ Chopin and Tolstoy. Too goddamned random. Why not Wagner and Salinger...that'd be something I could comprehend, a cliche but nevertheless it's not absurd.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:53 PM
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39. Funny, I was just thinking that a real life Dexter Morgan would be useful for this guy. nt
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:52 PM
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21. What a Fucking COWARD. I hope he burns for eternity. nt
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:53 PM
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22. Holy shit, I did not realize this was happening. nt
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:57 PM
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24. I'm sickened by this
What a fucking COWARD. I read somewhere that he used an automatic weapon. Where the hell does a Norwegian get that? Or is it easy (I have no idea)? Hard to think this imbecile acted alone.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:17 PM
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27. WTF? He was able to pick off 80 souls? 80???
God almighty above, I hate HATE guns.

Fuckin send me to the gungeon if you must, but this is beyond the pale.
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socialshockwave Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:23 PM
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32. Take him out back
And shoot him. Flay him alive - he's a monster who should suffer.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:23 PM
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33. heartbreaking.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:24 PM
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34. I'm horrified, so incredibly sick nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:55 PM
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40. :(
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