Obama ducks the fight and states that Gay Rights are "best addressed by the States".

[bvar22]

http://newsone.com/nation/ggaynor/obama-believes-gay-marriage-best-addressed-by-states/

President Obama and his family should Thank their Gawd that LBJ believed differently,
that Civil Rights and Equal Protections for ALL is an important issue BEST addressed by the Federal Government.

If LBJ believed that Civil Rights and Equal Protections was an issue "best addressed bu the States",
there would still be places in this country where President Obama & his family would have to
sit in the back of the bus, and attend Separate but Equal Schools,
among many other things.

Thank Gawd President Johnson believed differently,
and was NOT afraid to fight for Civil Rights and Equal Protections for ALL.
NO exceptions.

President Lyndon Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 .
The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., center, attended the signing.
July 2, 1964

[msongs]

1. gee that's the same things the Confederates used to say, "states rights" nt

[no_hypocrisy]

4. That and abortion rights and marriage between races.

[Marrah_G]

2. !@#$%^&*(

:puke:

[iwishiwas]

3. The'fierce advocate" was a campaign slogan only.

[theHandpuppet]

31. Yep, and some of us figured that out years ago

I wonder what kind of bullshit slogan he'll come up with for 2012 when he again asks for GLBT votes and money? And just where are all the DUers who said that just as soon as Obama cleared other issues from his plate we could crawl out from under the bus?

[Bluenorthwest]

5. It is a stunning thing to hear him make such an statement.

nt

[GoddessOfGuinness]

20. I was thinking more along the lines of appalling. n/m

[LonePirate]

6. He sounds a lot like the people who wouldn't allow his parents to marry back in the 60s.

The comparison is apt therefore I think the term "bigot" can be applied to Obama. If the shoe fits ...

[ClarkUSA]

7. Yeah, he really ducked the fight when he successfully got Congress to vote on repealing DADT...

... and convinced the Pentagon brass to get on board as well.

:sarcasm:

BTW, Pres. Obama also said that after the election, he'll start a "new chapter". Also, I recall similar complaints as to his DADT repeal strategy last year. He's the best pro-LGBT president in US history. Some people seem to have mighty short memories.

[Pab Sungenis]

22. DADT is not repealed yet.

And one of the three men (so far) holding it up by not issuing their certification is...Barack Obama.

Discharges under DADT are still going on. The one man who can stop them with a stop-loss order but won't is...Barack Obama.

[ClarkUSA]

24. Stop splitting hairs. Congress voted to repeal DADT, thanks to Pres. Obama's courageous leadership.

After a transition period, which was always planned, DADT will end in the fall. No one who had any knowledge of the details of DADT repeal would think it was supposed to happen immediately.

<< Discharges under DADT are still going on. The one man who can stop them with a stop-loss order but won't is...Barack Obama. >>

WTF are you implying? All of those discharged asked to be:
http://www.military.com/news/article/3-gay-airmen-seek-discharge-before-dadt-ends.html?ESRC=eb.nl

Why should President Obama deny these 3 gay airmen their own wishes? How fucking ridiculous.

[Occulus]

37. tx4obama thinks it's okay to use DADT to walk away from one's military oaths

because tx4obama thinks it supports tx4obama's narrative.

Tx4obama is engaging in pure semantics; it doesn't matter whether they wanted out or not. It's still a DADT discharge, full stop.

Tx4Obama would dearly love for us all to ignore that.

I think we should all ignore Tx4Obama instead.

[tekisui]

36. DADT repeal was good. But, DOMA is worse. It is time for the

president to stand unequivocally for marriage equality.

As for a "new chapter", I am constantly reading about the powers of crystal balls....

[originalpckelly]

39. Without DOMA repealed, NOT ONE of those servicemembers spouses will have benefits...

the DADT repeal specifically states this to be the case.

[frylock]

8. r2z

[Taverner]

9. Slavery is an issue best left up to the states, Miscegnation laws are an issue best left to the st..

..ates

[MuseRider]

10. Rec'ed to 0

wow.

[Tesha]

13. The unreccers have shot their bolt. +2 now. (NT)

[DonCoquixote]

11. LBJ

was vilified a lot, but truth be told, he may go down as the most heroic president yet, as he knew full well that when he fought for civil rights, he was handing Dixie to the GOP.

[bvar22]

14. I NEVER thought I would be looking back on LBJ...

..as the most LIBERAL President of our times,
but there it is.

Can you imagine Joe Lieberman stamping his foot telling LBJ, "NO!!! I'm NOT going to support your Health care Plan?"
:rofl:





Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their PROMISES.

[CBGLuthier]

16. Yeah but to be fair LBJ's fine tailor left more room for his balls

Apparently MR. Obama had to leave his balls on the floor upon becoming president.

[awoke_in_2003]

19. LBJ would have eviscerated Lieberman...

right where he was standing, whether it was LBJ the Senate Majority Leader or President

[dflprincess]

26. I don't know Bvar,

I've begun to think that Liebermann was Obama's front man on the deal and Obama got exactly the insurance profit protection act he wanted all along. He didn't "LBJ" the Blue Dogs because he was busy going after the Democratic wing of the party to fall in line.

[bvar22]

33. You mean that..

..Lieberman really just Took One for The (DLC) Team?
Why not? He didn't have anything to lose,
and it was good for the Kabuki Theater.

"Its ALL Joe Lieberman's fault!
We really, REALLY tried,
but there was nothing we could do.
We didn't have the votes,
and Joe Lieberman is a SUPERMAN!!!!!!" :cry:

You won't get an argument from me.
On my bad days,
I suspect that the Progressive Caucus is in on the scam,
and are just playing out their parts (final capitulation)
to make us Working Class Peasants believe we still have a voice.



The DLC New Team

(Screen Capped from the DLC Website)
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=254886&kaid=86&subid=85

[coalition_unwilling]

30. "The most heroic president yet"?? You have got to be joking. LBJ

committed us to combat in Vietnam and escalated it even as he knew that it was a war we could never win. How is that heroic by any definition of heroism?

Abraham Lincoln was our most heroic president, followed closely by George Washington, imho.

[xchrom]

12. Recommend

Is this were about race - there would be less disagreement.

There is an under current of homophobia here to support a guy who is weak on = rights.

With the irony being he's African American.

That was true from the beginning of his campaign & remains true.

[phiddle]

15. Obama's position on gay civil rights

is approximately the same as Trent Lott's attitude toward racial civil rights.

[fascisthunter]

17. Well Done! (nt)

[Fumesucker]

18. K&R

[Nye Bevan]

21. YES. Because if a state wants to ban interracial marriage, or segregate its schools by race,

who is the President to interfere with "states' rights"?

Very admirable, President Obama.

[peace4ever]

23. considering our history, and his, it leaves me speechless

:'(

[Zorra]

25. Not voting for Hillary in the primary may be the biggest political mistake

of my life.

I was so disillusioned I didn't vote in the primary, I just saw both candidates as corporatists, and kind of dropped out of the loop for awhile.

I promise I will never do that again.

[readmoreoften]

28. Clinton, as secretary of state, has proved no better.

I seriously doubt she'd be better on our (LGBT) issues or any other. I don't know. Maybe she'd be better on LGBT issues. Obama seems to have a palpable disdain for us.

[FiveGoodMen]

32. Hillary's talk on the campaign trail was as bad as Obama's performance

Both are poison.

[readmoreoften]

27. Face it: Obama is a center-right Republican and always has been.

From his banker advisers to his schemes to privatize the public sphere to his "state's rights" and "one man one woman" arguments about gays and lesbians to his total avoidance of union issues (knowing that the union bureaucrats will ignore the rank and file members' concerns and keep filling Democratic coffers instead of striking, just like the HRC will meet with the president for wine and cheese as if that could dissuade him from his state's rights approach...)

Idiotic system that serves the 1%

[Pab Sungenis]

40. If Obama had been a white man

he would have been a Republican.

[chill_wind]

29. Excellent choice of pics and reminders of what moral leadership

on vital issues once looked like in the Dem party. K & R.

[myrna minx]

34. How appalling.

:puke:

[BigDemVoter]

35. I am appalled

I know I'm not the only one who has stated this, but how would Obama have felt about presenting issues like civil rights, etc. for the states to approve/disapprove?

I don't truly believe Obama is homophobic. I think he's allowing political expediency to get the best of him on this particular point.

Nonetheless, I'm going to vote for him again! The alternative is much to awful to contemplate. . .

[MountainLaurel]

38. Because historically that has worked so well

When it comes to civil rights.

:wtf: