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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:36 AM Original message |
Poll question: If it's Obama vs. Bernie Sanders for the Dem nomination in 2012 how would you vote? |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. We can't do this. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That's only true if the party leadership gets ugly about trying to stop it |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. So who's going to primary Obama? nt |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. There isn't going to be a democratic primary. Nobody,including |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Oh, don't worry, |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Have any democratic politicians expressed a desire to |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. He/she asks with doe eyes. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Please, the only "doe eyes" going on here are those who seem to |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. And who would that be? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. I wonder what the word is on the ground |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. you mean more disastrous than caving in to Republican demands? |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Sure |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. The seat was open then. It was a different matter. |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. and a Senator can never be elected President--remember that indubitable fact from 2007? nt |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
101. Well, it's not really going to happen but we can have some fun |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. I like Sanders, but he has no campaign organization |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. We lose if Obama keeps sliding further and further right, too. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 04:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Then you'll be happy to hear that his campaign is appealing strongly to SMALL donors. |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. This "small" donor will be giving to Kucinich, Sanders, and Frank. Not one red cent to the DLC |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I thought Kucinich was losing his seat. n/t |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. There's a good chance Dennis will relocate to Washington State and stand in an open seat there. |
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xphile (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. That's part of the problem isn't it. When it comes time for votes and money the small people exist. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. + a lot... you aren't the only one. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. +1000 Can you guess how I voted in the poll? |
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ImNotTed (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. Sanders is too old |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. Sanders is 70 |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. Bernie Sanders is not (technically) a Democrat, and in any case could not win. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. He would be a great president, but it would be tough to get much done with one & a half corporate |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. remember when "they" said Obama could not win? at least Sanders stands for something nt |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 04:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I always thought Obama could win. Thought so since 2004. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. +1000. nt/ |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. As others have stated, Bernie isn't a Democrat. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. He should be a great resource for any Dem who does run, though. |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
104. A quibble with your post. I would postulate that |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
13. any primary challenge will lose and damage our chances of holding the white house |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
14. ah yes, let us fantasize about obama being beaten in a primary... what beautiful dreams... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
107. LOL This thread clearly demonstrates how delusional people |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
18. Bernie Sanders isn't even a Democrat |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Bernie is closer to being a "Democrat" than Obama with respect to political views |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. A Democrat as defined by whom? |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
80. Bernie Sanders consistently garners more Recs on DU, a Democratic site, than |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
103. Are DUers representative of Democrats as a whole? |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
105. Franklin Delano Roosevelt |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. The same FDR that ordered the internment of 110,000 Japanese Americans? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Bernie might be a "Democrat" but he's not a Democrat...nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Sanders is as much a Democrat as Eric Cantor. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. Cantor is in our caucus??? Sometimes it seems so. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. He organizes with us and is more loyal to us than Obama is |
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Ice Number Nine (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. so sayeth the King of All Democrats! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. His distance from the DLC/Corporate Dem orthodoxy is his selling point. nt |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
22. LOL... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Sanders\Como 2012!!11! |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Who's Como? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
83. That's Eugene Levy playing Perry Como on SCTV... |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
23. Bernie will be supporting President Obama in 2012. n/t |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. Are some of you so removed from reality that you believe that |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
31. Sanders can't primary Obama. He's not a Democrat. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
69. This is not strictly true. There are procedures for getting on ballots, as I'm sure you know. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is reminiscent of the Kucinich polls in 2008. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. bernie would never win the general election...we would hand it over to thugs |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. Bernie Sanders May Be An Independent, But He Is More In The Model Of An FDR Than... |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Wish your post was a seperate thread. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Your Wish, Is My Command... |
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Ice Number Nine (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. FDR was not a God. He fucked up a lot, too. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Sure He Did... They All Do... But He Fucked Up So Much... |
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Ice Number Nine (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. and George Washington could have been King. What's your point? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Maybe... But Accomplishments Can Have A Lot To Do With Popularity... |
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Ice Number Nine (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. There are plenty of reasons to vote for Obama and you know it. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Where's this 'knife fight'? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #56 |
102. Um, Reagan was already exhibiting signs of Alzheimers during |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. FDR wasn't a God??? |
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Ice Number Nine (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. you said it. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Lol, you're going to have to be smarter than this. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. Um, last I heard Bernie was not a Democrat |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Neither was Eisenhower, but the Dems tried to draft him for president. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I'm not disagreeing with you, per se |
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Ice Number Nine (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
43. Fools and their pipe dreams are damn near inseparable. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. DUers are 'fools with pipe dreams'? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. Hopefully, we'll have that choice. |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
49. Please, explain,very simply, how Bernie Sanders wins the General Election... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. If the likes of Phailin, Bachmann, Gingrich, and the rest of the clowns can be "serious" candidates |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. ...except that they're not, as far as the General Election goes. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. They will be if they are the nominee and one of those fuckwits will be the nominee |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
55. Obama n/t |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
59. Yet another masturbatory primary Obama fantasy. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
60. Obama. Sorry, folks you can't have my Senator. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
63. I recall a DU poll that showed Kucinich easly winning the 2008 primary |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
75. How is this thread even allowed to exist? I love Bernie but he is NOT a Democrat. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. He's A Reminder Of What Democrats Used To Be |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. He's NOT a Democrat! Period!! n/t |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Evan Bayh Was A Democrat, Joe Lieberman Was A Democrat... |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Straw man. You don't know shit about me! That wasn't the point. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Wow... I'm Sorry You're So Easily Hurt... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. If he organizes with us, he's a Democrat |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. And the irony is that Bernie Sanders has consistently supported Barack Obama. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
77. Other: |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
79. Bernie, hands down. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
82. And the minute |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. It wasn't just that Obama said he didn't have the votes for a real healthcare bill |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #82 |
108. I don't know about that... |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
85. Bernie of course. As long as he ain't a moozlin and he got his birf cetifficut. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
91. I'd definitely pick Sanders, but.......... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. OK...so he's 69. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
94. I'd be forced to do what is best for my country. |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
97. I can't take this seriously. n/t |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
98. Rather interesting vote response. |
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denbot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
99. My vote is tallied.. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
100. Bernie! |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
106. Come on, we all know Al Gore is going to run in 2012. nt |
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postulater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
110. Bernie. |
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