Jersey Shore Beaches...

[monmouth]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/06/26/nj-beachgoers-worry-new-rules-may-limit-beach-access/


Beach in Atlantic City, New Jersey. (Photo credit: JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images)

Access, Beach, Beachgoers, Jersey Shore, Rules, Summer, Surfing

LONG BEACH TOWNSHIP, N.J. (CBSNewYork/AP) — New Jerseyans have to put up with taxes, tolls, toxic waste and, occasionally, Snooki. So an occasional trip to the beach is all that keeps some folks here sane.

Now officials in the nation’s most densely populated state are rewriting public beach access rules that could make it easier for well-to-do towns to keep out-of-towners off their beaches — and a sandstorm is brewing.

The state says it had to act and give more local control over access after a court decision struck down more stringent rules that spelled out uniform standards for each shore town. The state feels it can accomplish more by working with shore towns and giving them flexibility rather than dictating a “one-size-fits-all” access policy to them.

But many beachgoers fear the new rules, if adopted, would reward the very people who have made it so hard for outsiders to reach the beach for decades.

Read the entire article...The rich don't want outoftowners on their beaches. The ocean belongs to everyone.

[RandomThoughts]

1. you make a statement of an axiom.

The rich don't want outoftowners on their beaches

That is based on an axiom of claim of ownership. You must first ask if that is correct.

That same axiom was used to defend slavery. The deeper axioms of an argument are often the problems in someones positions, what they assume to be true, to then use to defend their position.

That is a house built on a bad foundation.

So show the axiom is wrong, and then they can rebuild if they want.

And I am due beer and travel money, a solid foundation.



Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs

Bonnie Raitt - I Can't Make You Love Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW9Cu6GYqxo

Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=407128

Dire Straits - Walk of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxVC0GB838


Constantine - Bring me to life (Evanescence)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8d3K_hngw

[amborin]

15. those new jersey beaches are beautful; even in CA, it's sometimes difficult for the public to access

public beaches; all sorts of blockages, etc.....

[nc4bo]

2. I wouldn't want to tempt mother nature like that...

She has a way of reclaiming that which was always hers...

Sheesh - people don't want to share with other people - how 2 year old-ish.

[monmouth]

4. The shore is greatly dependent on the summer season. When married

my husband owned a very profitable bar and restaurant a block off the beach. This was the time the insurances were paid and any large bills were paid and tuitions were set aside. Everyone from the hot dog guy, all vendors, this is the economy for this part of the state. They've been building McMansions at the shoreline and the owners resent that others than the locals are enjoying "their" beach. This has been in courts over and over again. The ocean belongs to all, if you build there you have to put up with it. Selfish, selfish people. My repub uncle wanted to park his car in our parking lot for customers. Would have been alright if he was a customer but he never came in for a beer. He and I had it out right there in the parking lot. Don't get me started...LOL.

[underpants]

3. OOOh! waiting for the Christie Kreme photo-op in a bathing suit

NOT

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

5. Here's a link about what happens when you don't follow beach rules.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_WedCWvfMk&feature=related

[monmouth]

14. Just looked at a couple of those CA videos. Fabulous..n/t

[Speck Tater]

6. One thing I love about my home state is that every inch of coastline is owned by the state

and not one bit of beach can ever fall into private hands. Yay Oregon!

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

9. Oregon was forward thinking.

Greetings from Port Orford, home of Oregon's first marine reserve.

[Shagbark Hickory]

7. Too many "towns" in this country. Way too many. nt

[FSogol]

8. Isn't saying "toxic waste and Snooki" redundant?

:shrug:

[JI7]

10. "off their beaches "

when they bought the homes did they gain ownership of the beach also ?

if they have a problem with it don't buy a home so close to the beach.

[TK421]

11. Not ACY, but LBI relies upon tourists and visitors from PA, NY, and elsewhere

I've never understood the outright hatred the BUSINESSES have towards people coming in...and it is hatred

Look..I understand that if you live there it must be a pain in the ass to deal with all of the traffic, but look at where you live for fucks sake! If you wanted solitude, you started your business or moved to the wrong part of the state!

[RandomThoughts]

13. I personally would not want solitude.

Although have had much solitude during times of reflection and learning.

Although I don't think solitude is healthy.

I am due beer and travel money.

[DesertFlower]

12. i lived in new york and went to the beaches there, but

a friend took me down to seaside heights for a day. it was beautiful -- really big waves.

[monmouth]

16. We were in Manasquan but would take the kidss to seaside. Loved it.

[WinkyDink]

17. Same HERE!! Grandparents would rent a big house in Manasquan, and we'd go to the SH boardwalk!

I remember one year a shark was spotted in Sea Girt!

[DinahMoeHum]

18. Well, in that case, they can kiss a big chunk of tourism $$$ goodbye.

and they can also kiss a lot of their businesses goodbye as the out-of-towners will take their $$$ elsewhere.

Piss on them.