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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:06 PM
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TSA guy promises not to pat down little girls. How swell.


Some people just look the part, yanno?

After months of viral videos showing children getting pat downs at airports and subsequent parental outcry, the Transportation Security Administration will change its policy for screening small children.

TSA Chief John Pistole said "repeated efforts" would be made to resolve issues surrounding children and pat downs. Pistole said today at a Senate hearing that he would announce further changes soon.

"As part of our ongoing effort to get smarter about security, administrator Pistole has made a policy decision to give security officers more options for resolving screening anomalies with young children, and we are working to operationalize his decision in airports. This decision will ultimately reduce -- though not eliminate -- pat downs of children," said TSA spokesperson Nicholas Kimball in a written statement.

At today's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Senate Committee hearing, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., highlighted an April incident in which a 6-year-old girl was patted down by an airport security officer. Paul held up a large photo of a TSA official running her gloved hands down the girl's inner thigh.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-change-policy-screening-children/story?id=13907748
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:15 PM
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1. Okay. Thanks for not touching little kids
The asshole does look the part
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:33 PM
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2. only took 8 months to even talk about making some changes
8 months!

:wtf:
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:46 PM
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3. Out of an abundance of caution we'll stop feeling up kids.
Thanks Pissy and Nappy!

:sarcasm:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:53 PM
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4. But they had to mention that some terrorists have used children to show that they're right
and the public is wrong, but the public won this round.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:59 PM
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6. Well they are right, BUT... this has happened in war zones
and that is like fer real.

That said, what TSA does is security theater, not real security and that is by design... we need to keep people afraid. It stops working once they realize we laugh at them.

I know two TSO's and I have not only made a point of telling them where the damn fucking holes are... but how much of a joke it is... and HOW to fix it I don't blame them... as much as upper management.

But yes indeed it has been done... kids as young as three... and that is what qualifies as a real tragedy. You cannot convince me that a three year old wants to carry out a suicide attack.

Oh and some of the holes... well the damn obvious fracking one... that lovely line that all can see into and any half motivated suicide bomber could walk to and go boom before anybody can react... oh 10-60 dead depending on the size of the bomb easy.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 10:44 PM
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7. Well yes, we know that. We're not supposed to pay attention to the details,
We're supposed to feel sorry for the pouting childlike TSA management.

Like you, I'm still waiting for an explanation of how that damn bottleneck at some TSA checkpoints is good anti-terror policy.

I can't imagine how frustrating it is for the frontline TSA employees to deal with the dictates of the dog-and-pony show masters in management. The checkpoint employees see frustrated passengers every day, even if the same can't vent that frustration without being pulled aside as a security risk.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 10:52 PM
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8. The check is not the problem... it is how it is being done
that funnel is a target.

I have said this before, I fly out of Mexico City fairly often these days... and while they have SOME theater demanded by us, I feel much safer flying out of there. I have a trained eye... the outside permitter is real... the primary check is for real, the secondary check (TSA) happens where you cannot see, and it is not a target... they have cops in the terminal... and they have a tertiary check. Did I mention they do check what goes into the belly of the aircraft with yes... bomb dogs and bomb sniffers?

Alas they israelized the Airport... and to the trained eye they have actual security, not just theater. That said it is always funny to hear American tourists complaining... like the one who was pouting, they are picking on me... why? He chose to go through the magnetometer with the huge belt buckle... and of course it went off.

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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:26 AM
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18. +1 Why try to sneak through security to take down an airliner....
...with three hundred people in it when there are 600 people standing right here in the security line?


Dumb ass TSA Fear and Outrage Generator...


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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:54 PM
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5. You know, I'm glad I don't fly.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 09:54 PM by provis99
If I had been there when a TSA thug groped a six year old, I would have punched the thug silly, and been up on the terrorism charges before you know it.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:48 PM
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9. I agree entirely. It utterly baffles me how this crap can, in any way, make anyone feel "safer".
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:57 PM
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14. If it were my daughter, i would be in jail. NT
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:50 PM
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10. Dude...
If the TSA is the ones doing it, then it's perfectly okay to touch children in otherwise inappropriate areas.

:sarcasm:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:52 PM
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12. Dude, read case law.
It explains perfectly well why the state has the authority to compel your daughter to be groped at the crotch and breasts in any public place.

...Dude.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:48 AM
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17. Dude, children need to understand that strangers rubbing them in inappropriate areas ensures their
safety.

I so wish I could have had that conversation with my daughter... "Honey, don't let anyone touch you there except a government agent."
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xphile Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:51 PM
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11. And when can we get them to stop molesting the rest of us? n/t
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:57 PM
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13. Fourth Amendment is dead and gone.
That's the Amendment that protects citizens from unreasonable (read: No probable cause) search and seizure.

It's dead.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:35 AM
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16. There's a bill in Congress right now, two actually, one to
make it necessary to get a parent's permission before touching a child, the other to put restrictions on the use of the machines and the patdowns. I posted on OP on it earlier.

And 11 states are planning legislation, in some cases, to make the groping illegal and/or ban the naked scanners. If you call Congress to support those bills, it will help a lot because lobbiests for the Rapiscans are going to be working hard to stop that bill.

It's really up to us, to help those members of Congress, from both parties, who are trying to help end this.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:01 AM
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15. "We'll just take them in to a private room"
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 12:03 AM by lpbk2713




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