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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:11 AM
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Millions of middle-class people could get Medicaid: The reaction from the elite-----Panic!
President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.

The change would affect early retirees: A married couple could have an annual income of about $64,000 and still get Medicaid, said officials who make long-range cost estimates for the Health and Human Services department.

After initially downplaying any concern, the Obama administration said late Tuesday it would look for a fix.

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But Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, called the situation "unacceptable" and said he intended to look into it.

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Former Utah governor Mike Leavitt said bringing early retirees in will "just add fuel to the fire," bolstering the argument from Republican governors that some of Washington's rules don't make sense.

"The fact that this is being discovered now tells you, what else is baked into this law?" said Leavitt, who served as Health and Human Services secretary under President George H.W. Bush.

"It clearly begins to reveal that the nature of the law was to put more and more people under eligibility for government insurance," he added.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43490650/ns/health-health_care/
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:16 AM
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1. An add on to my post.
64,000. yep---64,000

and the Elites are going crazy because they'll be able to opt into Medicare.

The insurance premiums continue to rise... I pay 850.00 per month---and the deductibles are outrageous.

The elites think 64 grand for a married couple with kids is just dandy and enough to live a wonderful life.

I cannot tell you how much I hate the fucking elites.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:18 AM
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2. +1
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:45 AM
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6. Rotten bastards wanted $1500 a month with a $10,000 deductible from me.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 06:47 AM by Mnemosyne
I've been living, and trying to help support 4 other people, on $900 a month rental income from two houses, but because I own the houses cannot qualify for medicaid! And any medicare is 12 years away!

I will never have insurance again. I hate those fuckers more than can be expressed in words...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:50 AM
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18. Who do you hate? The people who you think should pay for you?
Or those who make health care expensive?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 01:19 PM
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20. I don't think any fucking one 'owes' me, fyi. It's the bastards making it ridiculously expensive. n/
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:24 AM
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14. Bravo. Well said. nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:20 AM
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3. "...the Obama administration said late Tuesday it would look for a fix."
Like, letting everyone opt-in to Medicare?

Depends on your meaning of "fix", I guess.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:25 AM
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4. Oh believe me---
it won't be a fix to help middle class... no siree
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:39 AM
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5. yes sir, retirement is meant to be a choice between cat food and blood pressure meds
we cannot have retirement be a comfortable choice - good lord, people might actually choose to retire.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:50 AM
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7. What is this retirement you speak of?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:52 AM
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8. +1
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:59 AM
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9. Heaven forbid people should actually have health care -
I love this sentence: "After initially downplaying any concern, the Obama administration said late Tuesday it would look for a fix."

Of course this administration will look for a "fix" - instead of providing health care to folks we can use that money to bomb nations of brown people (providing that they have oil or some other resource we'd like to steal).

So very very transparent.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:05 AM
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10. The article is rife with disdain ........
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 07:09 AM by trumad
I read several others and they all have the same tone.

Here's one I picked up from a conservative site: Notice it sites the Drudge report for an AP article...

Breaking on the Drudge Report is an article from the Associated Press (AP) that reveals a 'glitch' in the Obamacare law that will provide millions of middle class Americans with access to Medicaid, which is intended for the poor and disabled. The discovery affects early retirees, such as a married couple with annual income of roughly $64,000 - they will now get access to Medicaid.
http://habledash.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1226:obamacare-glitch-gives-free-care-to-millions-of-middle-class-americans&catid=45:the-nook&Itemid=59
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:12 AM
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11. Heaven forbid the lawmakers READ the bills they vote on!
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 07:58 AM by HereSince1628
No wonder legislation factories like A.L.E.C. are running the country.

I wouldn't want to call Congress critters lazy, but they DID vote on this apparently without knowing what they were voting on. Seems like we need Evelyn Woods at the capitol so that demands of reading will leave no legislator behind.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:16 AM
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12. Yeah---
you'd think they'd catch a errrr mistake like this.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:18 AM
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13. This complaint is from Congresscritters who will have
Pensions of roughly $50,000 a year and other benefits. They should stop feeding on the taxpayers' tit themselves before cutting everyone else off. Afterall, aren't most of them millionaires now?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:28 AM
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15. This mistake lays them bare...
again---the disdain is pouring from their lips and will ratchet up in the next couple of days.

This is a show their cards moment.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:43 AM
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16. The reactiuon is: close the loophole, or raise Medicare deductions tremendously.
This is a financial disaster unless the loophole is closed.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:25 AM
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19. I think the bigger point is...
how the elites react to it.... Sure it needs to be budgeted.... but watching them fall all over themselves will be hilarious.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:44 AM
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17. I'm sure this reaction will go over well with voters
If they actually ever hear about this.
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