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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:48 PM
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Poll question: Assuming you agreed with his or her political positions, would you vote for a Mormon for President?
There's a poll going around right now that shows that 1 in 5 wouldn't, so curious how DU would shake out.

Bryant
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:50 PM
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1. Sure. Why not. I already vote for Christians and Jews for office,
and I'm an atheist. It is the positions on issues that matter to me, not a candidates religious beliefs.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:53 PM
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3. I agree completely. nt
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Springer9 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:16 PM
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19. Absolutly not! the next thing you know the Pope would be running
the United States.

'scuse me, I just flashed back to JFK and the Catholic Church. I must go lay down for a minute, tough gettin' old.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:20 PM
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20. LOL! I'm old, too, I guess. Then there's Harry Reid.
He's a Mormon. I know a lot of people don't like him here, but I think he's OK in general. More moderate than I'd like, but usually on the correct side of things.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:05 PM
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39. Same here. nt
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:52 PM
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2. No. We've had enough morons in office already.
oh, wait....
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:53 PM
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4. question: how many liberal Mormons have run for Pres?
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:57 PM
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8. Well how many Mormons have run for President Total?
Bryant
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ergot Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:13 PM
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18. That, I do believe, is an oxymormon
heh
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:54 PM
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5. Of course I would and this is a bullshit poll. n/t
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:05 PM
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15. why is it a bullshit poll? n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:26 PM
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25. It seems to me that Democrats shouldn't make religion
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 03:27 PM by Blue_In_AK
a criterion for voting or not voting for a particular candidate. I thought we were the ones who kept religion out of politics. It shouldn't matter if a candidate is Mormon, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, whatever. It shouldn't even be in the equation.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:37 PM
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29. Yes but in pretty much everything there's a gap between Should and Is
how wide is that gap?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:55 PM
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6. (Assuming I were American,) he'd have to make his opposition to some church policies clear
such as their attitudes to homosexuality and abortion.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:55 PM
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7. I probably wouldn't
Mormons piss me off with their anti-gay campaign in California and their damn temple and their magic underwear and their waking me up on Saturdays, riding their little bikes in white shirts and ties, and their not drinking caffeine, mumble grumble grumble grumble...

TlalocW
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:58 PM
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9. Sure. I'd vote for a liberal, pro-choice, pro-equality, environmentalist Mormon candidate.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 02:59 PM by Xithras
I care about their moral and political positions, and not their religion. Voting for a liberal Mormon is no different than voting for a liberal Catholic...a persons politics are not defined by a label on the spine of their holy book, but by the spine in their back.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:58 PM
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10. Nope, as a lesbian, I can't see how a Mormon's political positions
would ever align with mine.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:05 PM
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16. To be fair...
I personally know several pro choice Mormons who have no problem with gay marriage.

The Catholic Church believes in the inferiority of women, staunchly opposes gay marriage and abortion, and is highly conservative in all regards. In spite of that, I have faith that our Roman Catholic Vice-President would fight against all of those positions.

Saying "All Mormons are anti-gay" is just as bigoted as saying "All Catholics are anti-gay". Religions have heads, but they're made up of individuals with varying positions on the issues.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:07 PM
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17. I just can't see any President being elected currently that proclaims to be Pro
marriage equality. He or she would be ridden out of town faster than Howard Dean shouting "Eee-haw!"
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:21 PM
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21. What about a Catholic?
The Catholic Church isn't exactly pro-gay rights.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:00 PM
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11. Harry Reid=Mormon
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:01 PM
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12. Yup. He's not my Senator, but I'd vote for him if he were in MN.
Very good that you pointed that out.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:03 PM
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13. Do they separate church and state on the job?
Do they put into policy things I agree with?

A candidate's religion or lack thereof shouldn't have anything to do with my vote, whether Mormon, atheist or fundamentalist Zoroastrian.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:04 PM
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14. Any Mormon who held political views that I could support....
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 03:04 PM by Morning Dew
would be excommunicated for apostasy.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:21 PM
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22. + 100
Tikki
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:22 PM
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23. pretty hard to imagine a liberal Mormon.
about as hard as trying to imagine voting for a liberal Klansman.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:28 PM
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26. Harry Reid is a Mormon...I'd vote for him.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 03:29 PM by tjwash
nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 04:58 PM
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36. I don't agree with a huge chunk of his political positions.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 04:58 PM by provis99
I believe the question was if the Mormon agreed with all your positions.
Frankly, if a more liberal Democrat ran for Harry Reid's seat, I'd favor the liberal.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:24 PM
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24. Religion, or lack of same, as long as it doesn't
influence public policy positions would have no bearing on my support or nonsupport of any candidate.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:28 PM
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27. I would.. republicans won't
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 03:34 PM by SoCalDem
at least the republicans who will be populating the primary voting booths..

Reactionary republicanism is firmly rooted in "born again-evangelical-apocalyptic- protestant religion", and they have no room for "cults" like Mormanism or even Catholicism in some circles.

they pretty much defined themselves during the Moral Majority years, and they have not changed yet.. in fact they have become bolder and meaner, and more narrow-minded than ever.


I am wondering why 27% of dems said they would not..but then it IS a Gallup poll:evilgrin:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:34 PM
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28. Yes. I can stand by Article 6 of the Constitution, which includes:
"... no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:38 PM
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30. Depends on the Mormon
To me Vanilla Christianity is just as goofy as Mormonism, Scientology, or any other belief system where the believer's reality is more real than the collective reality

But that doesn't make them a bad person - hell, William Jennings Bryan was an extremely moral person, truly acted out of love for mankind, and thought of all men as equal when it was not politically advantageous to do so. Yet, there's that whole Scopes trial thing.

So who knows? I would decide on a case by case basis.
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Springer9 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:38 PM
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31. Assuming you agreed with his or her political positions, would you vote for
Rep. Keith Ellison for President?

Wingers wouldn't 'cause he's a....you know...MUSLIM!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:38 PM
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32. Yes, but I wouldn't take him or her on a fishing trip without a second Mormon guest
If you take one Mormon fishing, he or she will drink all of your beer. If you take two Mormons, they'll keep an eye on each other.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:39 PM
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33. No.
I hesitate to say "absolutely not" since I like to give everyone a second chance, but in light of their hatemongering over CA's Prop. 8, I just couldn't do it.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 03:39 PM
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34. Why not. Every election we vote for people who feel compelled
to bow to religion in order to be taken seriously. Why would professing to be a mormon be any different.
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PotatoChip Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 04:01 PM
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35. I don't give a flying fig about someone's religious beliefs (or lack thereof)
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 04:03 PM by PotatoChip
or whether they are college educated, male or female, a person of color, LGBT, ect. As long as he/she lines up as closely as possible with my overall political POV vrs. the other candidate(s)

No one candidate will vote exactly as I wish of course. That would obviously be nearly statistically impossible. But as long as someone is overall what I want to see in a candidate, and demonstrates an ability to get things done, they've got my vote.

I have a few key issues that I would never compromise on, but the above mentioned are not among them.

Edit: typo
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:02 PM
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37. I think the scenario is extremely unlikely, but yeah
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:02 PM
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38. Depends ... a Harry Reid type, maybe ...
But I see very few of those ... I see far more who are just as right wing politically as any Fundy, and I won't vote for them because their positions are usually nuts.

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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:15 PM
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40. "Jack-Mormon", yes. Otherwise, no
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:16 PM
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41. I don't agree with the Mormon church.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 05:17 PM by glen123098
But I would vote for anyone who I thought was going to help instead of hurt people. If their was a Mormon candidate who was for seperation of church and state, who supported gay rights, women's rights, civil rights, and supported sound economic policies, then I would vote for him or her. But has there ever been any Mormon politicians who have supported these things who have not been excommunicated?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 05:25 PM
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42. I didn't vote in the poll as I'm not American., and there are few Mormons in the UK..
but I would vote for a liberal-left candidate, whatever their religion. It's my impression that most Mormon politicians are conservative; but if the particular individual wasn't, then I'd vote for them.
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