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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:14 AM
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11-Year-Olds Charged After Disturbing Images Found On Cell Phone
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Police in Charlotte have charged two 11-year-olds with sexual exploitation of a minor after finding disturbing images on a cell phone.
Police began investigating in April after getting a call from a mother who was concerned about the images she found on her 11-year-old daughter's cell phone of her 5-year-old daughter and a 7-year-old boy engaged in sex acts.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/28263419/detail.html?cxntlid=cmg_cntnt_rss
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:21 AM
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1. What's important is to criminalize this
Sure, other countries might deal with this differently, but in America, the important response to any problem is to apply criminal law.

Hopefully, what will happen is that these incorrigible children will go to kiddies jail, their parents will be sent to to supermax, and any siblings can be put out on the street to fend for themselves.

This will fix everything.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 09:50 AM
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8. prove it. that is bullshit. nt
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 09:54 AM
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9. I think Bragi was being sarcastic. nt.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 06:41 PM
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36. Quite so.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:16 PM
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27. That had to be sarcasm. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:27 PM
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28. i think more a lazy ass hit/jab at america. nt
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zinnisking Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:47 PM
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29. a justified and accurate jab at america.
+1 to Bragi.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 02:46 PM
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31. prove it... nt
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 06:40 PM
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35. Prove my forecast? Hah!
Oh for gawd's sake.

I wrote: "Hopefully, what will happen..." followed by a sarcastic description of how I thought it might play out.

You then demand "proof". Proof of what?

How about I demand that you prove my forecast to be wrong.

That seems reasonable.

And I demand links proving that I'm wrong.

And I guess I better add the smilie this time, since you apparently missed it last time

:sarcasm:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:25 AM
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2. Sounds to me like there needs to be an investigation into
the people around those 11 year olds. A criminal charge against 11 year olds doesn't make a lot of sense.
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:29 AM
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3. I think mom should have called a counseling center not the police
but I bet mom is too much in denial that she is responsible for providing parenting to her 5 yr old and wasn't able to keep her 5 year old daughter out of danger.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:44 AM
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4. an 11 yr. old should not have a cell phone


or a mother that doesn't keep track of it, daily.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:49 AM
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5. Playing doctor gets children a visit from the cops now huh?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:55 AM
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6. Posted in record time. Sex acts= playing doctor. No, sorry. It isn't.
I didn't see the pix, but if it is sex acts, it's not playing doctor. Especially if the 11 year old is taking pictures.

But then, youngsters only imitate their elders. To suggest this might be dysfunctional might also have some adults questioning their behavior. Can't have that.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 09:23 AM
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7. Way back when, when I was about 7, I played doc with the neighbo boy
boy- just show-me-yours, etc. Nothing else involved.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:00 AM
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10. How about that third element - someone taking photos of it?
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 10:04 AM by lunatica
I don't think it would have been the same if another person were there recording your actions.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:19 AM
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11. But now everybody, even kids, walk around like zombies with a phone/camera glued to their hands.
Everybody's clacking away, "sharing" pics and videos with each other. Especially kids.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:27 PM
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34. Puh-leeze. The other day
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 05:28 PM by Golden Raisin
I saw a toddler (under 2) being pushed in a stroller playing (and engrossed) with some sort of laptop device with a keyboard in his lap. Couldn't get close enough to see whether it was real or toy (it looked pretty authentic), but the point is we now have a generation that almost literally come out of the womb keyboarding, texting, etc.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:15 AM
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17. Yeah, no one else was there
no pix taken.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:29 AM
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21. I was lucky in that respect too
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zinnisking Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:30 AM
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12. mama always said peepees are the devil.
:evilfrown:

When I was a lad, sometimes the neighbor kids would stay over on the weekends. One morning, when I was about eight-yrs-old-ish, we woke up way before the authority figures. We became nasty little !evil doers!, stripping down to nothing, and running around the house. One girl, who was slightly older than me was convinced that she could milk my penis. Even at that age, I knew that that was a silly notion, but who was I to refuse her? (oh noes! alert the church elders!) That wasn't even the funnest part of that morning.

Good thing for us little !sinners! that we didn't have cell phones back in the eighties or I would have developed a major victim complex from all of the HYSTERICAL June Cleavers of Puritanical America. And that slightly older girl would have been shamed for life!

I am convinced that "concerned mother" is a stupid flocking bitch. <---Classy eh?

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:58 AM
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14. I'm not one for telling people how they should think or feel about themselves...

but the scenarios you describe older girl (still a minor herself) and younger boy who doesn't understand what the girl wants to do is a too common molestation model for a lot of young boys who are not OK with happened to them.

Your mileage may vary, of course.

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zinnisking Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:23 AM
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18. My mileage may vary. Very interesting.
Could you please reword your thoughts without the mysterious riddles. I am not afraid to admit when I can't decipher someones cryptic post.

Tell me *really* what "happened" to me when my schoolmate tried to milk my penis.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:53 AM
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25. You've already described what happened to you.

And based on what you wrote it seems that you are OK with with that.

My only intention was to say other boys may not be ok with the same experience.

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zinnisking Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:12 PM
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26. Yes. I am ok with what "happened" to me. A girl a couple years older than me tried to milk pee
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 12:13 PM by zinnisking
out of my penis like it was a cow's teat. All in a jovial setting.

I guess that could be considered molestation...as defined by hysterical American adults.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:57 PM
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30. Okay, what exactly constitutes "sex acts"?
Because that phrase covers a VAST amount of ground. Not trying to take a side here, but it's worth noting that "sex acts" can refer to many things even vaguely sexual, and not just "having sex."
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:52 AM
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13. Depending on the sex acts I can see why the mother may have wanted to get the police involved.

And it did involve a child from another family.

If the images were sent to other kids it was only a matter of time before the police came knocking.


Generally there are differences between age appropriate sex play in children and children engaged in sex acts.

Although given what is so easy for kids to see on the internet today, I'm not sure how easy it is to draw the line.


Hopefully all the children will be well.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:05 AM
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15. reading some of these posts is funny. if mom does not do her job, bad. does her job, bad
we have little info on what acutally happened. yet people are declaring, .... leave the children alone.

whatever
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:14 AM
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16. Children will be children and let children be children
it doesn't seem that long since I was a kid myself even though I'm 63 yo today. LOL

After all at some point in life sex will be the most important thing they will have, for a while that is. But when you get to my age not so much anymore.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:25 AM
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19. children will be children and there is a point that the parent addresses children being
children. that is their job, lol.

my sons played with their penissss(plural? penii) and i ignored it. they grew out of doing it in the living room in front of us. bothered hubby, didnt bother me. there was the time my 8 yr old niece was attacking and kissing on my 6 yr old son. he worshipped her. i talked to him privately and asked how he felt. he didnt like it, but he loves her. so i made sure i was around and would enter the room noisely or call out for him to interupt but not embarass niece. until she outgrew that little phase and experiment.

parenting.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:26 AM
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20. You handled that with tact and grace
:thumbsup:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 04:28 PM
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33. i think she did the right thing
i would do the same. there could be other victims out there.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:36 AM
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22. some of these incidents are not so innocent. i remember about 4, sketchy cause 4
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 11:43 AM by seabeyond
not in school yet. my mom visited a friends house. the boy, quite a bet older, i am thinking teenish? took me to his fort. it was about me showing mine. i remember my mom outraged, me confused, her so mad, but i knew not at me. she was shaking she was so mad. she had to scrunch down to get into the little area we were in.

taking me home so angry what the boy did.

sketchy 4 yr old memory. as an adult, i know the wrong. we never went to that neighbors house again.

now i wonder.... if my dad addressed when he got home. i have had this memory over the years... being in this enclosed space with this boy... and he was a boy, but much older.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:39 AM
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23. I see why your mom was way mad
I'd be too.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:41 AM
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24. sure. but on our oh so sexualy liberated du... at all costs, we seem to be outraged
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 11:42 AM by seabeyond
at any addressing of sexuality regardless of the situation or age....

i find that silly.

some things are not big deal. some things you address even though they still are not big deals because there are lessons to be learned. and some things, are wrong.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 04:16 PM
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32. Does it strike anyone odd that a woman would call the police on her own children?
And charging pre-pubescent kids in something like this instead of getting them counseling also seems very odd.
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