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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:09 PM
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Isn't Afghanistan mostly about a pipeline?


Our public dollars and lives sacrificed for private corporate interests.

Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline


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Iosif_VS Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 01:11 PM
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1. Turkmenistan or Tajikistan?
Keep getting those 2 mixed up.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 02:49 PM
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2. If it was, China has now beat India to that natural gas. No one's going to build it now.
Central Asia – China gas pipeline

On 3 April 2006, China and Turkmenistan signed a framework agreement on the pipeline construction and long-term gas supply.

On 30 August 2007, the construction of the 188 kilometres (117 mi) long Turkmen section of the pipeline begun....The first of two parallel lines were completed early November 2009 and the second line is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia_%E2%80%93_China_gas_pipeline
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 02:55 PM
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3. Not just natural gas but other rare earth metals too
China is letting the U.S. do all the dirty work while they reap the benefits.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:53 PM
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4. Yes and not and probably not.
The natural gas pipeline isn't quite a later addition, but it was secondary at the time.

The primary pipeline adduced as the rationale for the Afghan war was this one, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Oil_Pipeline .

It was cancelled; as a result of the war and lack of security another route was found to get the oil out. Not to be deterred, post-hoc-ists refocused on the remaining pipeline.

Just as with most of the claims for Iraq, it'll turn on the claims that the primary reason for the war was to help another country in ways that couldn't have been predicted at the time. It was fascinating to see other countries get the big contracts in Iraq, while American contractors get PSAs; it was also fascinating to see BP apparently tacitly considered to be an American company.

Countries that were really opposed to having * get the US into Iraq turn out to be the primary beneficiaries of that war. Countries that were irrelevant in the very quick run-up to the Afganistan war will turn out to be the primary beneficiaries of that war. "Cui bono?" is a nice way of helping to form a hypothesis, but it can't in any way be considered a way of testing those hypotheses. That's generally true of all abductive reasoning, and "cui bono?" is just one of the ways of getting grist for abduction's mill.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:55 PM
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5. Yup and Iraq was about the oil
Thieving bastards our country is or our corporations are through the use of our military.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:57 PM
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6. it's about making/keeping afghanistan an opium colony
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:00 PM
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7. Yep, it's mostly always been about the pipeline ..link to timeline..an eye opener
www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:13 PM
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8. Sure it is, which is why we sent Seal Team 6 into Pakistan.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:43 PM
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9. Unocal, Enron, et al., had a wicked cool pipe dream back in 2001
And Shrub's "carpet of gold or carpet of bombs" made for lousy foreign policy.

Why we continue digging the hole to Hell in Afghanistan is beyond my comprehension.
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