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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:27 AM
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Jewish court sentences dog to death by stoning
Source: AFP

"A Jerusalem rabbinical court condemned to death by stoning a dog it suspects is the reincarnation of a secular lawyer who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago, Ynet website reported Friday...

The canine target, however, managed to escape.

"Let the Animals Live", an animal-welfare organisation filed a complaint with the police against the head of the court, Rabbi Avraham Dov Levin, who denied that the judges had called for the dog's stoning, Ynet reported.

One of the court's managers, however, confirmed the report of the lapidation sentence to Israeli daily Yediot Aharonot."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110617/od_afp/israeltrialreligionanimalsoffbeat



Those horrible Muslims. Oh, wait.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:31 AM
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1. Does the Jewish court know that Jews do not believe in reincarnation?
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 05:32 AM by aquart
And honey lamb? This loony tunes court (are you sure this isn't the Israeli Onion?) is stoning a dog. Muslim courts sentence WOMEN to stoning. Which I'm sure you can rationalize in some fine and dandy way.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:32 AM
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3. that's what i thought. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:33 AM
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4. Yah. This is very nutty.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:58 AM
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12. Yea, thought this was Onion.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:16 AM
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10. Hassidic Jews do (see: Kabbalah) (nt)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:59 AM
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20. Not true. I worked with an Orthodox rabbi's wife. She said that after purgatory
it is not known what happens to the soul. That leaves reincarnation a possibility.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:31 AM
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2. alright before i call the ass holes -- which i did --
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 05:35 AM by xchrom
is it true or not.

aquart points out -- these rabbi's shouldn't believe in reincarnation.

the link isn't the onion.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 11:58 AM
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30. As the source, Yahoo cites the Israeli daily paper, "Yediot Aharonot."
The beliefs of religious fanatics do not have to be consistent.

In this case, it's not so much a belief in reincarnation as this "court" believing in the power of its own curse.

They were just jealous that all the coverage of total-idiot fanatics was going to the rapture freaks.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:49 AM
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5. HAHA! You beat me to it!
Those horrible Muslims, indeed.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 05:55 AM
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6. but there is a good chance this isn't real.
there shouldn't be any reincarnation w/ those rabbi's.

and the dog ran off, too.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:08 AM
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8. I agree....
but I've seen people get really bent out of shape on DU about things that seem even less legit.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:05 AM
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7. Ynet
""It was ordered by the rabbis because of the grief he had caused the court," he said. "They didn't issue an official ruling, but ordered the children outside to throw stones at him in order to drive him away. They didn't think of it as cruelty to animals, but as an appropriate way to 'get back at' the spirit which entered the poor dog.""

http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-4082843,00.html

And the mask falls away@!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:02 AM
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13. Oh nice, much better
;(
Happy Saturday morning.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:09 AM
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15. Thank you!
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dballance Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:11 AM
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9. That is F***ing NUTS
So are they going to start witch trials now? How ignorant can you possibly be? Condemning a poor dog? Stupid is really rampant among the religious.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 06:42 AM
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11. Here's the BBC link to the true story
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:08 AM
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14. Religious fundamentalists are a pox on humanity
I despise them them all.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:19 AM
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27. The fundamentalist nut bags of all Religions cause most of the problems - Christian, Jewish & Muslim
Their influence on Governments and Foreign Policy hurts everyone.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:15 AM
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16. next thing you know, they'll be burning witches......
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:22 AM
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17. Fucking Bronze Age buffoons
:eyes:
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:47 AM
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18. Once again we demonstrate the brilliance of religious thinking.
Can you tell I despise zealots of any stripe?
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 07:52 AM
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19. more proof that all religious extremists are nuts regardless of denomination
the extremism itself is the enemy
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:03 AM
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21. This is horrible. Poor dog. They are so vulnerable to human evil. nt
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ellenrr Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:04 AM
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22. now, if the dog had broken the Sabbath I could see it.....
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:07 AM
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23. Christian court sentences women to death by hanging
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 08:17 AM by geckosfeet
February 25, 1692: Tituba, at the request of neighbor Mary Sibley, bakes a "witch cake" and feeds it to a dog. According to an English folk remedy, feeding a dog this kind of cake, which contained the urine of the afflicted, would counteract the spell put on Elizabeth and Abigail. The reason the cake is fed to a dog is because the dog is believed a "familiar" of the Devil.


Theologically based paranoid fear and hate never goes out of style.

Famous American Trials: Salem Witchcraft Trials 1692

History of Witchcraft Persecutions
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:18 AM
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24. K'd and R'd
Insane.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:21 AM
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25. This is a fundamentalist neighborhood in Israel where if you drive thru there on the Sabbath
people will often throw stones at your car because you are dishonoring G-d by working on the Sabbath.

Stories about throwing stones at dogs always seem to trump throwing stones at people:


Hardly a week goes by in Mea She'arim without a stone-throwing incident, the torching of garbage containers or the blocking of streets. The public has gotten so used to the violence there that it's hard to notice that a new phenomenon has sprung up. In the past, the violence took place in the neighborhood mainly because of religious struggles. Now the very entrance of a government agency or service provider is a pretext for protest. Mea She'arim has become a dangerous place to visit.

In March, for example, police officers were attacked when they answered a call to break up a fight between a landlord and his tenants. In December, someone there painted "An end to filthy pictures" on the motorbike of a cable-company technician. Attacks on buses, window smashing and tire puncturing have become routine in Mea She'arim. On April 1, the ultra-Orthodox Web site Kikar Hashabbat reported: "Passersby tell us that dozens of yeshiva students threw stones at a bus while some of their friends tried to block it with garbage cans. The rioters were trying to get on the bus to separate the male and female passengers."

The neighborhood has become a lawless no-man's-land. It's part of the ultra-Orthodox community's process of radicalization. But there's no reason for radicalization to lead to unrestrained violence. These are not isolated excesses - large crowds take part in the incidents. Mea She'arim is ruled by the rabbinical court of the Eda Haredit, the extreme ultra-Orthodox group that could stop the riotous behavior if it wanted to. But it doesn't want to.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-mea-she-arim-mob-1.289570
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 08:39 AM
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26. Is this a real story?
?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:57 AM
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28. Yes it is.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 10:00 AM
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29. Then wow.
nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 12:10 PM
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31. I don't know why they have to punish the dog/secular lawyer again by killing it. The lawyer
was cursed to become a dog in his next life. Well, that happened! Wasn't that punishment enough?

So happy the pup escaped. This is insane.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 08:53 AM
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32. yikes! nt
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 09:06 AM
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33. Comment retracted after reading PCIntern's thread...
Edited on Sun Jun-19-11 09:13 AM by Earth_First

"...the details of the 'story' begin to be fleshed out, it turns out, naturally, that the newspaper had to retract the story, etc. That means that it wasn't (entirely) true.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1323888&mesg_id=1323888
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:34 PM
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34. sure
I notice he has no link to any retraction, however.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:36 PM
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35. This is stupid rather than cruel , surely they are not serious !
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