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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 09:51 PM
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In Case You Missed This... 'What Wisconsin's Governor Is Really Threatening' - Salon (Feb)
What Wisconsin's governor is really threatening
When Scott Walker talks of unleashing the National Guard on public employees, he conjures an ugly history
BY STEPHANIE TAYLOR
FRIDAY, FEB 18, 2011 06:45 ET

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To understand the visceral, emotional nature of this outcry, you have to understand the history of the National Guard and the labor movement -- and what this means for the relationship between labor and the state today. During the late 1800s and early 1900s, governors often mobilized the National Guard during strikes. Sometimes the Guard was genuinely neutral, assigned to buffer the dangerous zone between strikers and their employers. Other times, the Guard was explicitly charged with breaking the strike. During these instances, violence often erupted between strikers and soldiers with terrible, bloody results.

National Guard soldiers clashed with strikers in Buffalo, N.Y., Birmingham, Ala., Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, Salt Lake City and Telluride, Colo., at the turn of the 20th century. In just two years, between 1911 and 1913, the militia was mobilized against coal miners in West Virginia, textile workers in Massachusetts, textile workers in New Jersey, and copper miners in Michigan. During an infamous bloodbath in 1914, soldiers killed striking coal miners and their families in Ludlow, Colo., including at least six men, two women and 12 children.

During the 1934 Auto-Lite strike in Toledo, a battle raged for five days between 6,000 strikers and 1,300 members of the Ohio National Guard, leaving two strikers dead and more than 200 injured. Three years later, during the famous occupation of General Motors in Flint, Mich., the governor ordered thousands of soldiers to the factory, as the workers swore to resist them by force. And in Wisconsin, Gov. Albert Schmedeman used the National Guard to disrupt a 1933 strike by dairy farmers, sometimes with bayonets and tear gas, when they tried to raise the price of milk. Newspapers reported that he was preparing for a "bona fide war." The Guard mobilized again the next year during a strike by the United Auto Workers. It was the last time the National Guard would be used during a strike in Wisconsin. Until, possibly, now.

The use of the National Guard against workers is supposed to be a relic of the past, nearly unimaginable to us.
That's because of an uneasy understanding, evolved over time, between citizens and the state over the use of state force against civilians. In her excellent book "Army Surveillance in America, 1775-1980," historian Joan Jensen argued that this understanding "maintained restraint, sometimes precariously, in using the army to defend the government from the domestic population." In other words, Jensen argues that the concept of voluntary restraint by the executive branch -- as opposed to codified legal restraint -- is still largely the governing principle at work when deciding whether to mobilize a domestic military force. So Gov. Walker's action is significant because it is an expanded interpretation of the power of the executive office. This would introduce once again the idea that a governor could use the military to impose his personal, political will on a state.

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Link: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/18/taylor_wisconsin_national_guard

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And one from me in February... Sort of...

The last time Wisconsin called in the National Guard was in 1886. The Guard, then called the State Militia were brought in to break a rally of Milwaukee workers advocating an 8-hour work day. The militia fired into a crowd of unarmed picketers; it's estimated that 5 to 7 workers were killed.


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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 10:04 PM
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1. We'll probably hear a lot more of that kind of talk.
Some pub last week--I forget who, maybe Palin?--was talking about how the 4 students killed at Kent State had it coming.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 10:34 PM
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2. Yep... The Future Is Lookin Real Scary...
Either way... we shall see.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 12:56 AM
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5. It was Ann Coulter
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 01:38 AM
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7. That's who it was. Thanks.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 10:37 PM
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3. What are they gona do if labor just don't go in for weeks, drag people out of their tents and make
Edited on Tue Jun-14-11 10:37 PM by lonestarnot
them work?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 11:25 PM
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4. Walker is a fascist tyrant.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 12:58 AM
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6. unrec - too many asterisks n a row.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 01:58 AM
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8. K&R
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