No one should underestimate Palin or Bachmann.

[pnwmom]

Whoever gets the Republican nomination has a reasonable chance at winning the election, no matter how "batshit crazy" DUers think he or she is.

If we don't all pull together and fight like hell, we could very well end up with batshit crazy this time around. And we thought George Bush was bad.

[AndyTiedye]

1. Repigs Can Stonewall the Dept Ceiling and Crash the Economy — Media Will Blame Obama

If people believe the Tee Vee, we're screwed.

"Citizens United" also gives the repigs access to billions in secret corporate donations.

[Eagle Mall]

2. now you're just being silly.

[Shagbark Hickory]

3. Agreed! Good point. K&R.

It doesn't take brains, it takes money.

[HopeHoops]

4. How can you underestimate something that's already scoring below zero?

[rhett o rick]

5. Is this a joke? If so, ha ha ha. nm

[Vincardog]

6. I thought FEAR was the GOP way. Can't we campaign on something else? Obama is not as bad

as Bat Shit crazy is not much of a platform

[emulatorloo]

25. GOP campaigns on things that aren't fearful: gays, US Muslims, Unions

On the other hand, Republican rule is a real threat. Look around you at Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas, Tennesee, etc.

Dems have plenty of positive things to campaign on and they will.

But don't get swallowed up in a false equivalency if a DU'er reminds you of the very real consequences of Republican rule.

[Snoutport]

7. EVERY conservative voter will be out voting in the primaries. Palin could win the nom

easily.

We have to hope that the more centrist Republicans hate her or Bachman enough to actually get out and vote for...shudder...Romney.

Romney probably won't have the vigorous following that the Palin/Bachmann creature will have. Right wingers probably won't vote for a Mormon. It comes down to that and they are a backbone of the party.

[LimitedHangout]

29. Hunstman

Hunstman will split the mormon vote

[fredamae]

8. WE need to focus upon educating

the electorate so the Do care how bat-shit crazy they are-have been and Will be if they win...

Fortunately we can prove our case and we still have enuf time.

[Curmudgeoness]

9. I would have thought this was a joke yesterday, but

today my boss was telling me how impressed he was with the "babe" in the debate. He said that she had his vote. When I told him she was dumber than a doorknob, he said she didn't sound dumb to him. I have to admit that I did not even consider watching the debate, so...was she actually coherent or is he impressed with her boobs?

[Stuart G]

11. duplicate...delete please.

[Stuart G]

12. It doesn't matter about the boobs?..What matters is that

someone, who is batshit crazy will run against a moderate democrat who happens to be the current president.

That batshit person will have a chance to win. Longshots always have a chance...5 years ago, that moderate was a very long shot.
Ok, the moderate democrat is not what all of us want.
sure, but that next president is one who will appoint the next Supreme Court Judge.

Who do you want to do that?

[Curmudgeoness]

15. I do not underestimate anything these days.

But I will not stand by idly and watch it happen. It is unimaginable to me that she could become president, but I have been shocked in the past.

And to my boss, boobs may matter. God, isn't that scary, to think that some people would vote for her because they admire her looks? Then again, my boss is pretty shallow.

[pnwmom]

13. She was better than I've seen her before, and the media is applauding her.

Probably because she exceeded their low expectations.

[Curmudgeoness]

17. After checking into news of the debate, it seems that she did not

screw the pooch last night. Amazing.

[fredamae]

24. Perfectly Coiffed, Artistically Painted,

Like an Actress--dressed for the part, her poised stance is perfected...ahhhhh ;)
Quite possibly, she may have even attended some fancy pageant walkin' school--training hard for her public appearances--Her "Royal Wave" as she walked on stage, was Flawless---

Now and in the meantime, her homework is overdue...meaning "what has she done in congress, this session to help fulfill her already promised "plan of solution" and where are her Plan(s) of how she will accomplish fulfilling said Promises after becoming President?

[LimitedHangout]

28. Yes

a lot of adoration from the media of her lately

[OneGrassRoot]

10. I agree with you, as usual. :) n/t

[AsahinaKimi]

14. I bet we will see a Bachmann/ Palin ticket...

or at least an attempt at one. The tea party would love it, however for the rest of us, it would be living hell.

[Warren DeMontague]

16. We will have an easier time winning if they nominate a Flat Earth Jesus loon.

I mean, someone MORE flat Earth Jesus loony than your average GOP 'establishment' candidate, like Romney.

...that's just a fact.

[Peacetrain]

18. Good advice .. we should never underestimate the ability to cheat

also.

We got Reagan because people just would not believe that the American voter would put an actor in the office of the President.

And George Bush the younger.. well we all know how that came about

But it is true.. every vote does count!

[pstokely]

20. They may not even need to cheat

Plenty of low information voters out there

[TheKentuckian]

19. You're probably right. We've devolved to full Bebblebrox mode with the Presidency

I think the Presidential elections are mostly determined by height/appearance and who is least boring seeming.

However, giving Obama the green light to fuck us over and destroy liberalism in America as long as he is more palatable than a certifiable loon dumbass like Bachman or a dimwitted nutcase like Palin isn't exactly winning the future.

People are fond of talking having "higher standards" than the Republicans but when it comes to policies and their outcomes the standard seems to fluctuate between a hair better and not as awful as what they'd actually do if given the chance.

[DevonRex]

21. Agreed because they can motivate the nuts to vote.

And the few sane republicans left will simply not vote for a Dem.

[riderinthestorm]

22. Agreed. But I've been on of those warning of this since Palin first stepped out with McCain

She's dumb like a fox when it comes to politics. She is utterly craven, ambitious and ruthless. She has only had to master the "trigger" words for her audience and she then plays that meme over and over to great effect.

She's dangerous, Bachmann as well. There's a crazy undercurrent of rage among white, (primarily male) low information voters.

[loyalsister]

23. Most definitely

One thing about it is there are a lot of unthinking people who have no clue about politics or social relations. People who carry the "some of my best friends are black" white guilt may think ah I don't want to show my privilege, so I'll vote for the black guy. If he has a woman instead of a white guy, it might tilt the balance in that direction.

[pipi_k]

26. I definitely would not underestimate Bachmann....

I have to admit that I haven't paid all that much attention to her, but from what I have seen, she appears to be intelligent and very articulate.

Not that being intelligent and articulate are prerequisites for a Republican president, as we all know, but anyway...


She makes Palin look like all three of The Stooges rolled up together with a dash of Bozo the clown for an extra brain cell or two.


I have no doubt that Bachmann could be either the nominee or, failing that, on a ticket with whomever is the nominee.

[Solomon]

30. You definitely haven't been paying attention if you think she's

intelligent and articulate.

[KharmaTrain]

27. Sadly 40% Of This Country Is Stuck On Stupid...

Right now Bachmann is a bigger threat to the rushpublicans...so let's hope she does lots of damage. She's all but neutralized Mooselini and if she pulls off wins in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina things could get fun. How will the knives from the boys club come out? Will they attack her for being a woman or find some skeleton in her closet? While she's not as "rogue" as Grifterella, Bachmann is not a Rove favorite and she could end up splitting the party into a third party and supressing their vote.

I'll concern myself with any and all of these losers next year. The focus right now should be on doing the little that this administration can do to keep the country from economically imploding.

[vanbean]

31. There is always Canada.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

32. Here's Why You're Wrong

Grampy McCain scared voters, and look how well he did. And when people actually got to know Sarah Failin back in 2008, they headed for zee hills. Now, if McCain scares voters, what do you think voters will think of Bachmann and/or Palin. America already rejected Failin once, what makes you think they'll warm to her this time around?

And don't tell me about what's going on right now. The only people weighing in are the 15% of the population that are right-wing loons. During primary season, the more batshit crazy, the better. But that nonsense only plays with the 10% of voters who are to the right of Hitler. Bachmann and Failin will scare the pants off of the 70% of American voters who reside right in the middle of the political spectrum.

Not only do I not see a candidate in the entire Republican field capable of making me worry, but I don't see a Republican capable of garnering as many as 100 electoral votes. This one's in the bag. It'll be 1996 all over again.