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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 02:57 PM Original message |
Enough with the "getting treatment"! I can understand someone with a drinking |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. What do you know about AA? |
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ChrisBorg (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. They have the best stories. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. It is a good way to deal with self-destructive behavior. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Sorry. As someone with up close & personal experience around some of it, I disagree. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Yes, there are secular alternatives that still provide an anchor for people |
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orion007 (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. I've enjoyed your posts today very much, informative and much |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Thanks. |
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orion007 (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. The problem is most never realize this..1x2x3x ..lol nt |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
81. I belong to AA and I agree with you. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. With all due respect, there are alot of Atheists who have problems with AA & the 12 steps |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. I got in an on-line argument with that RA founder dude |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. What's "RA"? You mean Rational Recovery? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Oops |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Google "The Orange Papers" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. He's clearly either got a problem with compulsive or addictive behavior. If you really cared about |
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left coaster (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Couldn't have said it better! nt |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
77. "dry drunk" is a bullshit 12 step term to validate some of AA's worst tautological 'truths' |
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Glimmer of Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. Exactly. I really think he has some sort of compulsive disorder. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
85. I'm no psychologist but I've seen how ADD made my granddaughter's life |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. It doesn't matter. It's a good POLITICAL move |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Precisely. |
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orion007 (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
70. This may open another Pandora's Box here but many wives |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. They're going to cure him of wanting to have sex or flirt? |
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sixmile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Thank you |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. indeed. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Deleted message |
JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Pray away the libido. But maybe this is secular, and he'll just be helped to "overcome" his urges. |
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ChrisBorg (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You can only suppress and that always works out sooooo well. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. They'll sprinkle salt peter on his corn flakes. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. . |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. No Ludovico technique? |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Like Homer training Bart not to be gay by parking him in front of a smoking ad with beautiful women. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. What the fuck? Most people are able to express their libido without self destructing, lying |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. How is he self destructing? I'd lie about my personal sexual actions, too. I see nothing wrong... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
86. And yet he KNEW that he was a target of the RW, yet continued his reckless behavior. |
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orion007 (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #14 |
73. You got it...he'll learn how to count to 10 first.....nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. If your sexual tendencies lead to out of control behavior, lying and self destruction |
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ChrisBorg (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. I did not equate the 2. I equated the idea that you can change a persons sexual preferences. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Sending naked pictures of yourself to people you've never met is "flirting" ? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Different strokes for different folks. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. No, it's helping him stop the destructive behavior and the lying. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
63. the internet is absolutely full of amateur porn. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. Exactly. nt |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
57. No. |
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orion007 (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
72. lol....just not social media sex/flirting.... |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. If everyone who has done what he did quit to seek help, the economy would collapse. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. 99.999% of the people sexting aren't lying about it and destroying their lives and losing |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Most lie about it. They lie to their coworkers if asked if they do it, most likely. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Maybe it isn't that his sexual life is destroying his marriage. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. It's tough to teach an old dog new tricks. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
75. Oh my god. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
78. Apparently, everyone who has ever masturbated more than 3 times in a week is a "sex addict". |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. It may surprise you to learn that people can and do happily and joyfully masturbate |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Yes, it's shocking. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. In an ideal world, I don't. We don't live there, tho. Do we? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Anyway, then why is 'sexual addiction' being defined as masturbating more than 3X a week? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Look, I don't really care what Weiner did if it were just private, but you know and I know |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Certainly the same argument couldve been made re: Barney Frank. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. In reality, his own colleagues didn't do to Frank what they are doing to Weiner now. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's a matter of a person being unable to control destructive behavior |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. Weiner is saying this to buy time for himself. If he were serious about it, he'd resign. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. lol! My "cynicism" has been spot-on about Weiner since he first made his non-denial. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. It ain't abnormal psychology in Congress. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Exactamondo! |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. +1 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
83. Yeah, sex is abnormal! |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
21. It's a way of acknowledging that he doesn't have control-- |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
23. does that mean if I had a spouse |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sounds like he may have a sex addiction |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. having you heard of gambling addiction? it sets of a chemical in brain. repeated |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. Bill Clinton should have sought a leave of absence and received treatment, too. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Bill Clinton had the support of Congressional leaders and he was in a critical position. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. So the higher you are, the more perverse you can be? And the opinion of others matters more... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Yup. That's about right. n/t |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
38. try checking this link |
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chowder66 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
44. Good treatment aslo includes; Understanding consequences and... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. We live in a Dr. Phil nation. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. one of the worst aspect of liberals |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
93. No one here has said everyone has a neuroses. YOU threw out that straw man. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. Send him to the Gulag for being a naughty boy. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
50. k&r |
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Lizzie Poppet (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
51. There's "treatment" for being a serial liar? Wow, who knew? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
53. He's a sinner, he needs to purge himself of his afliction. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. the DLC and the GOP aren't very different, in many regards. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
76. Therapy is the new religion, |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
54. He needs professional help, his obsession has taken control |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. Compulsive risky behavior is a sort of addiction, like gambling, and |
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Left coast liberal (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
56. It is all about impulse control. nt |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
59. I agree, and I bet they will shove a bunch of big pharma pills at him as well., |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
60. And the phantom's shouting, to skinny girls; "get out of here if you don't know" |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
65. nothing wrong with getting treatment. I want Weiner to stay, but I do suspect |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
66. It's a good political move |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
67. I imagine they will treat him with some kind of aversion therapy. |
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orion007 (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. As long as he's not a masochist it could work...lol |
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sense (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
80. There is no cure for narcissism. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 05:52 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. And unfortunately that is a disease that affects all politicians... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
90. Perhaps he has a substance abuse problem and the sexting is a symptom of if |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
92. you have to understand compulsive behavior and obsessions... |
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