Compare the threads about Sarah Palin's hubby's alleged affair(s) with the Weiner threads

[Kaleva]

Very few are the posts saying it's none of our business and it's just a private matter between a husband and wife. Concerning Weiner though, it seems we all must grow up, move on, and keep our noses out of other people's private matters.

[msanthrope]

1. Brave person. K&R

[EFerrari]

2. I always say it's none of my business and it always catches flak

from the morality monitors.

[roguevalley]

13. I only care if the couple involved are holier than thou. Vitter and the

defense of marriage act ... he deserved what he got. Palin too, actually. she and todd are holier than thou while wango tango-ing around all over the place.

[EFerrari]

17. Someone pointed that out to me, the holier than thou homophobes

should be an exception to the "none of my business" position.

[Whisp]

3. hahaha! you got guts.

:thumbsup:

[aquart]

4. You really have no sense of proportion have you?

Since Todd Palin doesn't work, no career is being destroyed.

Since Todd Palin is a right wing separatist terrorist, we lose nothing by looking at him as the bug he is.

But Weiner does work that MATTERS TO US. We lose a great deal by making his personal choices more important than our governance.

Now go find that lonely bridge.

[MineralMan]

7. Actually, it does matter.

We tend to be idealists. That's a good thing, since it means we expect things to match our ideals of how things should be. Among my ideals is the idea that governance should be done by people of good judgment and character. When I find evidence of poor judgment and character, I have to question the ideals and values of the person displaying that lack of judgment and character. When such a person is a legislator, it does concern me. Now, I might not know about lapses in character unless the person also lacks good judgment. The combination of the two flaws is a confidence killer for me. My assumption, based on knowing many people well enough to know their character, is that there is no shortage of persons of good character and judgment who might serve as legislators. I see no need to support those without those two characteristics. No need a all.

We make a mistake if we entrust our laws to people of poor character and judgment. Truly we do.

[Dreamer Tatum]

9. So, since it's your guy, it's OK.

Finally. Thank you.

[nessa]

12. +1 (nt)

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[Waiting For Everyman]

5. Real vs. Virtual - you see no difference between the two?

An online "affair"? Preposterous false equivalence.

I don't think it even qualifies as a so-called "affair", even a virtual one. It's more like virtual exhibitionsim. Most of it one-way, with very little or no response at all.

[DevonRex]

6. I'm all for people keeping their private lives private. If only Weiner had

done that we wouldn't be talking about him tweeting his penis. ITA with your post.

[JDPriestly]

8. Weiner did not have an affair. He sent virtual messages to virtual

friends pretending he had sexual relationships with them. Weiner was fantasizing.

That's what lots of people do although most don't do it on the internet.

There is a huge difference between writing a novel in which you are a sexual hero and actually having sex with numerous women.

Weiner was doing the equivalent of writing a fantasy about his sex life. That is all he was doing.

Good heavens. Get some perspective.

Sit down and have a nice little daydream about your favorite movie star. Why do you think Americans are so fascinated by the latest antics of Hollywood's stars? Because the fascinated imagine in some small corner of themselves that they actually know and have a relationship with these amazing people. And those imaginary relationships are so much more satisfying than the reality, the mundane reality in which they live.

Men watch porn. The extremely successful and famous may even get responses to their e-mails to porn stars.

Women read love romances and read such stories.

Most people never dare to e-mail for real. They just imagine what they would say and do if they met the person.

Let's put on our socks and shoes when we go into the real world, but let's allow ourselves fantasy and imagination also.

The whole thing about Weiner is just way out of bounds. He embarrassed himself by taking his fantasies one step too far. That is all he did.

[dionysus]

19. my my, you do go out of your way to defend sleaze, don't you?

:rofl:

[Dreamer Tatum]

10. Epic though uncomfortable WIN. nt

[madmom]

11. Who cares what twad does, except when he belonged to an organization that wanted Alaska to secede.

[Blue_In_AK]

15. I don't care about secession, but

I sure wish we were part of Canada. It would make a hell of lot more sense.

[rucky]

14. I believe this is what you call a hasty generalization.

I can find conflicting posts on any message board, any day of the week.

[Kaleva]

16. It's a generalization but it wasn't made in haste

It took awhile to read thru many, many threads but the observation was made as general as possible as I didn't want this to be considered rising near the level of calling out members of DU. I just wanted to see if maybe there might be a difference in opinion depending on who the subject is and to me, that did appear to be true.

[Blue-Jay]

18. Not a good comparison.

I've seen Weiner's...well, weiner, and he's come clean about everything. There's no evidence that Todd Palin has had an affair (though who could blame hime?) unless you count unsubstantiated internet rumors.

[Zax2me]

20. This post is why I love this site.

And what makes it BETTER than so-called counterpart sites from the whacko far right.
In the end, reason prevails here despite the disparities pointed out by the OP.

[LanternWaste]

21. I imagine that is due to the GOP pushing a Family Values menu on everyone.

I imagine that is due to the GOP pushing a squeaky-clean, holier-than-thou Family Values menu on everyone. I think that due to that, they advertise sex lives as everyone's business.

In other words, holding a person to a standard they set for themselves is not a fallacy. When I begin to detect that the Democrats are pushing an agenda of "sexual morality", I will most certainly hold the Democrats on board with that to that standard.