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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:25 PM
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Weiner’s Wife Is PREGNANT
:smoke: :smoke:


Their marriage has become the subject of intense speculation and scrutiny amid an embarrassing online sex scandal. Now, Representative Anthony D. Weiner and Huma Abedin are about to make news of a different kind: they are expecting their first child.

Ms. Abedin, 35, is in the early stages of pregnancy, according to three people with knowledge of the situation. The pregnancy, which the couple has disclosed to close friends and family, adds a new dimension to questions about the future of their marriage.

Mr. Weiner, 46, who has admitted to engaging in salacious online conversations with at least six women over the last few years, has declared that he and his wife have no intention of splitting up, even though some of the exchanges occurred during their marriage.


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http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/weiners-wife-is-pregnant/?ref=nyregion


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:28 PM
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1. THEY have some serious decisions to make.
But none of it relates to his voting record.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:32 PM
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6. I find his actions selfish for conducting himself in such a manner while his wife was pregnant.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:29 PM
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60. I think that's HER business! n/t
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:43 PM
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66. Weiner posts are taking up way too much space at DU. But will comment.
Very much her business and, unlikely, but maybe she knew and did not care.

If she knew beforehand and was OK -- I could not live this --, fine.
Otherwise, I find Weiner creepy and far beyond my (what many would consider Atheist) limits would be able to maintain in a committed relationship, much less one with biological children.

This is my first Wiener post.

Weiner posts are taking up way too much space at DU.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:34 PM
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62. I think she has some serious decisions to make.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:28 PM
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2. Holy sh*t
Poor woman. I hope the stress doesn't harm her.

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:31 PM
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4. +1 (n/t)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:31 PM
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74. A healthy apple doesn't fall out of the tree
I'm sure that she will be just fine.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:31 PM
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3. Not our business.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:32 PM
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8. +10000
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:32 PM
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10. Well ...
I just send some healing consciousness their way (i.e. prayed), and wished them the best - in terms of getting through these challenging times.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:51 PM
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30. ditto!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:13 PM
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40. For Pete's sake. Is this your response to every single item of human interest?
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 05:14 PM by WinkyDink
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:30 PM
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48. No, just the ones whose last names don't rhyme with "Gobama."
Pretty obvious what the response would be then.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:28 PM
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58. if he is elected to do serious work in office then it's everyone's business
would rather be hearing important stuff than talking aobut his ugly dick, wouldn't you?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:32 PM
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5. Congrats to them
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:32 PM
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7. Fuckall, when it rains it pours no?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:32 PM
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9. Congratulations to Huma. I hope things work out for the best. Marriage isn't easy.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:33 PM
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11. i'm running out of ways to say who cares
who cares if Weiner's wife is pregnant? Who cares??????????
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:34 PM
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13. +1
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:42 PM
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21. i feel empathy for a woman first time preg, early stages. i care. it matters. and as a dem i
would think that would be the natural way to go

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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:52 PM
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31. Don't look at me...
I was hoping that we could talk about the cost of health care...

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:03 PM
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36. You're all heart aren't you? You don't think she is devastated personally?
I don't think that Weiner's dalliances affect his ability to serve, but to say you don't care about the wife's sensibilities in this situation is cold, man.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:12 PM
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38. never mind
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 05:16 PM by Enrique
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:13 PM
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:14 PM
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41. It's part of the story. Go start a thread of your liking, then.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:33 PM
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12. And somehow all this panty sniffing is for her good, right?
Good grief.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:41 PM
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18. really? you really are playing this shit? panty sniffing? nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:35 PM
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:36 PM
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64. Do you think slamming her husband online will help
her mental health? We know nothing about their relationship. Not that that will stop people from judging it.

I hope they remain happily married and that they can get on with their lives without Peeping Toms peering in their windows, virtually or otherwise.

I also hope he remains in Congress and I feel certain the people of NY will reelect him as the American people tend to not particularly like witch hunts as the Clinton and Rangel episodes demonstrated.

If she loves her husband, nothing would hurt her more than to see some of the comments on the left about him.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:25 PM
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71. do you think she is online to see what people are saying about her husband?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:37 PM
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14. Lots of newsclippings to save for the child
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:37 PM
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15. Now he's going to have another little weiner to worry about
:rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:40 PM
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16. fucker.... dont mess with preg women. fucker. nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:40 PM
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17. If true, he's done
There are levels of betrayal and being cheated on while pregnant ranks near the top (I think the top would be if one of his porn buddies announced that she is pregnant too).
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:42 PM
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24. Or under age. The little head told the big head what to do and he complied.
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 04:43 PM by Segami
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:25 PM
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45. When the little head does the thinking,
there´s never enough oxygen going to the big head.

:eyes:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:47 PM
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28. "being cheated on while pregnant"
Nonsense. Sending pictures of yourself over the net is not cheating on your spouse.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:50 PM
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29. He had phone sex with one of the women
and I consider that cheating.
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ergot Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:49 PM
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52. Would you do it with your spouse watching over your shoulder?
hm?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:41 PM
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19. And this is my business exactly how?
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:49 PM
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69. Because you alone decided to make it your business.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:42 PM
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20. Has it been confirmed that they are not in an open relationship?
I assume most politicians are :shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:43 PM
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26. seeing how he promised he would stop this before marriage, and apologized to her for the pain he
caused her now, i would say....

no
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:59 PM
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33. that's a PR move
I'm not guessing either way, but his speech was crafted by PR people to try to save his career. It wouldn't help his career to say he was in an open marriage.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:01 PM
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34. so, you arent guessing, it is a fact, a pr move, though you dont know. i heard the words he says
if he is lying, own it. if it is his word, then there you go, what we have to go off of. you are guessing and stating it as a fact. i am listening to what he says

piss poor pr move if that was their choice.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:26 PM
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57. I didn't say it was a fact, these are all opinions here.
That's my opinion is that he has a team of 20 people who are formulating and crafting everything he does/says now so that he can keep his current job and get elected again.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:44 PM
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27. I just don't understand how people think they can know what happens
in a marriage that they're not in. :shrug:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:42 PM
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22. Congratulations, Mrs. Weiner
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:42 PM
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23. Well now we've all seen his dick and we know that it works too...
nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:43 PM
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25. CNN: Weiner calls Bill Clinton
TRENDING: Weiner calls Bill Clinton

(CNN)- Embattled Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner called former President Bill Clinton Monday to express regret for his actions, CNN has confirmed.

A source familiar with the call would not characterize it in more detail and called it a private conversation.

<...>

Weiner's wife, Huma Abedin, serves as Secretary Hillary Clinton's chief-of-staff and is well-liked in Democratic circles. The former president officiated at the couple's wedding, and he and the Secretary of State have been extremely close with Huma for years.

Democratic sources say Weiner has made many calls to colleagues and supporters over the last few days. At the same time, pressure has been building for the congressman to resign.

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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:09 PM
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37. The Clintons
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 05:10 PM by marions ghost
should be able to counsel them well... :evilgrin: I hope they help him hang on. But I would like to see his wife ask him to get into counseling immediately. Sex addiction can be helped. And contrary to logic, he can still be very much in love with his wife even while he goes in for online flashing.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:23 PM
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43. If this is true, I feel even worse for Huma.
It should have been such a happy time for her. Married almost a year and expecting her first child.

Why are so many men such JERKS???????

I wish her and the baby nothing but the best.

:(
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 04:58 PM
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32. Like someone said on another blog
Times have changed and we have to realize everything we do online, all emails, etc are there forever even if deleted.

So unless society at large expects perfection from all of its people stuff will get out. As long as it doesnt affect the job i am ok with him staying. Now if he sits at his office on my dime and spent most of the day with it i would have a problem.

Same goes for repubs. The problem is basically with them that they vote and preach against the very thing they are doing.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:03 PM
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35. I hope the kid takes after his wife
Especially hope it doesn't inherit Weiner's IQ
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:18 PM
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42. I feel sick for her. The time in her life when she should be the happiest. Now
she has to deal with the public scrutiny and her emotions over this betrayal.

Keep your head up Huma, you will get through this terrible moment.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:27 PM
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46. +1. nt
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:29 PM
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59. I am sure she is not thin-skinned, especially after having to deal with all the rumors about her and
Hillary being lovers that have been around for years.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:37 PM
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65. Can't believe you went there.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:47 PM
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67. Why not.
Most folks are acting like Huma is a naive wife that has thin-skin.
I think she is not.
She has had to deal with bad press in the past and I'm sure she learned from the experience.
I believe she will be just fine this time.

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IamK Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:25 PM
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44. Who is the dad? This could get interesting.... n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:28 PM
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47. really? you feel the need to diss this woman? what did she do to earn du's wrath?
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 05:28 PM by seabeyond
disgusting.

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:34 PM
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50. WTF? That's uncalled for.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:30 PM
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49. Poor woman having to deal with ugly scandal along with
something that would ordinarily be one of the happiest times of her life.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:44 PM
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51. This shoud END all discussion of this
there is soon to be a third innocent involved in the media's need to talk about sex 24/7

give it up already.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:07 PM
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54. weiner's not "innocent" by any stretch
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:09 PM
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55. the child is who the poster is referring to
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:48 PM
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68. you mean the fetus?
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 06:50 PM by frylock
the poster referenced three innocent people; there's Huma, the fetus, and......?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 07:48 PM
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70. they left off a comma
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 07:48 PM by dsc
they meant there is a third, innocent involved. The fetus is the third person, and that third person is innocent not that there were three innocent people.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:30 PM
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72. that makes even less sense..
this really isn't worth discussing. peace out.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 11:20 AM
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77. actually it dawned on me that it is three
the woman sent the pic, the wife and the child.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:57 PM
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53. Yay! Babies! Yay! (n/t)
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:23 PM
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56. I wish nothing but the very best for her
It would be hard enough to deal with what her husband did, but adding the prego hormones and possible morning sickness at the same time??? That f'ing sucks! I don't care if she stays or goes. Either way, I hope she finds her happy.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 06:31 PM
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61. Congratulations Anthony and Huma :) n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:31 PM
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73. Does capitalizing it make her more PREGNANT?
:shrug:
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 08:42 AM
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75. This virtually guarantees another few days on the front pages.
He is done, he should resign asap. He can always get a great job as a lobbyist out of the spot light. And make more money too! He may need it for divorce court.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 08:46 AM
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76. Congrats to Mr. Weiner and his wife!
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