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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:25 PM
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I think we are in more wars today than ever before in my six decade lifetime
Why?
I thought it was bad when Poppy Bush invaded Iraq...but I never ever thought I'd see this. I thought we had discovered peace in my lifetime. I'm twisted into a ball of anger and frustration and sadness over this.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:26 PM
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1. I am due beer and travel money.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 04:26 PM by RandomThoughts
And the world should be more just and compassionate.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:27 PM
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2. Random, some days I am really really glad you are here because your posts give me the
only smile I can muster on some days.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:11 PM
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12. Ditto
:D
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:32 PM
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4. our government's wars are results of decisions made by specific humans who could decide otherwise nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:28 PM
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3. They are called 'Operations' now not wars
geez get with lingo.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:36 PM
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5. It seems like most of my lifetime this country has been at war, on the edge of war
or strategizing potential wars. They're big profits in wars for some and big profits in preparation/readiness, the MIC. I'm completely convinced there are quite a few people that want war for war's sake and the profits.

The older I get the more I realize most of earth is really F'ed up in regard to humans.

I agree, anymore, it's become our chief national product.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:38 PM
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6. we are the most agressive and other country occupying country on the planet..nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:02 PM
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13. I really don't care for our foreign policy and meddling in other countries. Often
I think we create more problems than might have existed without our meddling in their affairs. And it's done to promote American Imperialism IMO.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:52 PM
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7. HEY, THEY'RE NOT WARS, we've not declared war on but
perhaps one. They're just police actions. How gawd awful that somehow we've determined ourselves to be the police of the world when we have such a corrupt, over-populated, and under-served (re: recidivism), becoming mostly privatized gladiator arenas prison and judicial system.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:57 PM
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8. We are in the dangerous end stages of agressive Imperialism, much like the end of the Roman Republic
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 04:58 PM by Odin2005
The end result is what British Historian A. J. Toynbee called a "universal empire" that encompasses an entire civilization and is ruled by a fused commercial-military ruling class. This is the end state of a civilization, a universal empire is a kind of death shroud or coffin of a civilization that has lost all innate vitality.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:09 PM
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10. Yep, more and more I think this is right on. Some of my friends have called the
US a bully nation with respect to foreign policy and IMO there's a lot of truth in that. I often wish we would divert some of that time, money and energy into fixing our own problems here at home.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 04:58 PM
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9. Indeed. And how many countries are we going to 'liberate' before it becomes
the next world war?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:09 PM
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11. Korea, VN, Iraq I, Iraq II, Afghanistan
During my life time, my country has been at war--

Korea- 3yrs
VietNam-20yrs
Iraq I-1yr
Iraq II-8yrs+
Afghanistan-10yrs+

42 years---pathetic, over a third of my lifetime
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:06 PM
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15. For me the same, but starting with WWII. I find it pathetic too. n/t
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:54 AM
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19. Don't forget....
The Second Korean Conflict (1966-1969)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_DMZ_Conflict_%281966%E2%80%931969%29

US Coup in Cambodia (1970-1975)
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=cambodia

(Including the Mayaguez Incident)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident

Salvadoran Civil War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War

US involvement in Nicaragua
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Nicaragua#Communist_leanings_and_U.S._Contras

US involvement in Colombia (1959-present)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia_%E2%80%93_United_States_relations

US involvement in the Philippines (the Bush years)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/HH23Ae01.html

US Coup in Venezuela (the Bush years)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_%E2%80%93_Venezuela_relations

US Coup in Principe and Sao Tome (the Bush years)
http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/money_politics_law/us_strategic_interests_rise.htm

And on and on and on.... Right now is a comparatively peaceful time, compared to the Bush years, in which the two larger, disastrous wars were intentionally used as a distraction from half a dozen smaller ones that were also being fought.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 11:05 PM
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14. I think there are more wars *reported* these days than in your 6 decade
lifetime.

The US has a long history of imperialism; it does not have a long history of reporting same.

Smedley Butler tried to tell 'us.' This has been a long love-affair with militaristic imperialists; now the internet lets us report and learn of it.

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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:01 AM
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16. War has become privatized, and is now basically a business
Now that there's a serious profit motive for war, there's more of them.
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:24 AM
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17. Trick question often asked during history dissertations:
How many years has the U.S.A. been at peace during its history?

Answer: Zero

We have always been at war, if not with the British, French, Indians, Spanish, Phillipino, Germans, Chinese; then ourselves.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 12:31 AM
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18. Here is a good list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations


I was going to put a rough guess about how many wars there are in that list, but just counting them would be a formidable task!
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