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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:42 PM
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One in 13 Georgians is behind bars
Georgia taxpayers spend $1 billion a year locking up so many criminal offenders that the state has the fourth-highest incarceration rate in the nation. When it comes to overall criminal punishment, no state outdoes Georgia.

Hard-nosed measures approved with wide public support forced a five-fold increase in corrections spending since 1985.

A monumental prison construction campaign that quadrupled space over the last four decades seemed like money well spent as record crime rates in the 1990s left Georgians fearful of becoming the next victims of violence.

But today, many public figures with strong anti-crime credentials are asking if that expenditure is smart, or even if it’s making Georgians safer. The debate about crime and punishment, once clearly divided along party lines, is now a debate in which conservatives often lead the charge for change.

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One in 13 Georgians is behind bars, on probation or on parole, according to the Pew Center on the States. That’s the highest rate of correctional control in the nation and more than the double the national average: 1 in 31.

http://www.ajc.com/news/government-waste/a-billion-dollar-burden-532578.html
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:46 PM
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1. Disgraceful. Not surprising since GA has the most corrupt political system in the nation
IMHO
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:49 PM
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2. I'd be interested to find out why most are incarcerated. I've lived in Ga.
since 2000 and I don't see or hear about any less crime than anywhere else we've lived.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:55 PM
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6. I was wondering the same thing. I am assuming they are creating hardened criminals
from people that could have been rehabilitated by lesser sentences.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:07 PM
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9. I have a theory on why so many are incarcerated
There used to be quite a bit of manufacturing in Ga. For instance my wife's 1994 Taurus was built at the Atlanta Ford Assembly Plant. That one plant probably employed around 3000 or 4000 workers at one time. I think that plant is closed now. Multiply that by another hundred other factories and other businesses closing up and that means no jobs. No jobs means more crime. More crime means more people in prison. No getting around that.

Don
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:52 PM
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3. what percentage are people of color?
The disenfranchisement of the black man. Put them to work on the prison farms. Don't get me started.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:02 PM
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8. The GA Dept of Corrections website says 62% black + 33% white
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 06:05 PM by TroglodyteScholar
Interestingly, there is no category for "Hispanic." Wonder what percentage of the "white" folks are Hispanic?

http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/OffenderStatistics/jsp/OffStatsSelect.jsp ---Press the "View by Race" button without choosing any filters.

On edit: And who the hell are the 4% "other???"
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:53 PM
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4. I beat the odds!
So far...

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:53 PM
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5. Georgia has a vast system of unpaid prison labor
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:57 PM
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7. Georgia prison strike is over....
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:07 PM
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10. I'm wondering, propotion wise, how this compares to the Soviet population
at the height of the gulag.

Ten percent of your population in prison is pretty weird, very science fiction.

And rates of incarceration aren't going down.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:12 PM
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11. If they have most of their "criminals" locked up then shouldn't they reduce their law enforcement?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:13 PM
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12. the land of the free!
I wonder how those tea baggers who care so much about "liberty" feel about how many Americans are in jail. By that measure, we're the least free country in the world.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:14 PM
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13. Well when it comes to crime, this strategy doesn't seem to be very successful. I live
right outside of Atlanta, and it is dangerous and scary in many areas of the city. For example, at the Peach Drop (our New Year's eve celebration) a 14 year old was stabbed to death a few minutes after midnight over a cell phone.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:32 PM
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14. Interesting that never was in the local news, huh? There are malls here that I wll NOT
visit at night too. I just don't see where the State is accomplishing anything incarcerating all those people.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:55 PM
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16. I know what you mean. There are some places in Atlanta I will not visit at all, much less
at night. :scared: I did hear about that 14 year old getting murdered on the local news, though; WSB-TV reported it. It's such a horrible tragedy.

I do wonder whether the incarceration rates are high here simply because of the high crime rate, or whether there are other more nefarious reasons, as others on this thread have suggested. It certainly doesn't seem to be curbing the crime regardless.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:35 PM
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15. why did you feel the need to leave off "on probation or on parole?" for shock effect?
It's troubling enough without deliberate distortion.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:03 PM
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17. One in 70 Georgians is behind bars..not one in 13
Is this what they call a misleading thread title?
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