2nd Brigade Combat Team is Off to Iraq (For Year-Long Deployment!)

[tekisui]

Source: FayObserver

The instructions were: Family members are not supposed to accompany their paratroopers to the York Theater.

But Sunday morning, as about 250 soldiers with the 2nd Brigade Combat Team prepared to leave for a yearlong stint in Iraq, a few dozen mothers and fathers, wives and girlfriends gathered in the parking lot to see their loved ones off.

No one seemed to mind, though.

This will be the brigade's 10th deployment since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In January 2010, parts of the brigade deployed to Haiti for three months to help that nation recover from a devastating earthquake.

more: http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/05/30/1097859?sac=Home

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What does this do to the claim that there are no combat troops in Iraq. And, if my math is correct. One year from May 30, 2011 is May 30, 2012, which would be past December 31, 2011. Right?

[tekisui]

1. "As a part of Operation New Dawn all 300 men and women will spend a year in Iraq."

http://triad.news14.com/content/local_news/triangle/641713/members-of-82nd-airborne-division-deploy-to-iraq

[BlueIris]

2. Lovely.

And by lovely I mean what a goddamned mess.

[ClarkUSA]

3. Yawn!!! Outrage FAIL. Read the full article. The 250 troops will be in an advisory role ONLY.

"The 2nd Brigade Combat Team will be deploying to Al-Anbar Province in western Iraq in an "advise and assist" capacity. The unit's mission is to train Iraqi Security Forces and conduct joint counterterrorism missions with them.

The U.S.-Iraqi Status of Forces Agreement says coalition troops will be out of the country by Dec. 31, but Roddenberry said the paratroopers could be gone up to a year, depending on the decisions from the Iraqi and U.S. governments."

Note that "could" doesn't mean "will", thus your claim that the troops "will" be there for a year is FALSE.

[tekisui]

4. A mere formality. This is more evidence that the groundwork is

being laid for troops in Iraq past 2011. We just have to wait for the pony show of the Iraqi request. Can't wait to watch the spinning when it comes time to defend it!

[ClarkUSA]

5. Prove it. Do you have access to classified information you want to share with us?

I'm not interested in conspiracy theories or misleading OPs, as you know.

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[ClarkUSA]

7. Are you at all interested in the facts as described in the article you obviously didn't read fully?

I am, which is why I am asking for proof of your rhetoric. Otherwise, your speculation is not credible, tekisui.

After all, anyone can cast sinister aspersions without a shred of proof; Obama's opponents on both sides of the aisle do it all the time.

[tekisui]

8. They are deployed to Iraq for a year. Gates is pushing for Iraq to

give us cover to stay. Several have said if Iraq asks, it will be granted. None have said that if Iraq asks, it will be denied.

It is happening. Like I said. I have paid attention long enough to see which way the wind blows.

[ClarkUSA]

9. Wrong again. OP article states that the 250 troops "could be" in Iraq for a year, not "will be".

Unfounded conspiracy theories aside, Gates gave his personal opinion. This has already been determined in this OP:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=681589&mesg_id=681937

<< None have said that if Iraq asks, it will be denied. >>

So what? Now you're going to parse what wasn't said? Oy vay!

<< It is happening. Like I said. I have paid attention long enough to see which way the wind blows.>>

lol! Does your crystal ball do off-track betting, too? :rofl:

[tekisui]

13. Lol, indeed. You refuse to acknowledge what is happening.

You will see, though. The drips are coming. I hope I am wrong, but doubt I am.

Laugh it up. Our troops are staying in Iraq.

[ClarkUSA]

15. "what is happening" = you can't back up a single thing you're saying

Hey, what lottery numbers should I play in the next Mega Million? Since you seem to be clairvoyant and all? :rofl:

[tekisui]

20. Yuck it up. I really don't give a damn.

And thanks for all the kicks!

[ClarkUSA]

25. Crystal ball on Line 1! Please pick up!

:rofl:

[former9thward]

10. If any of them die will their deaths be 'advisory'?

[ClarkUSA]

16. WTF does that mean? Don't step on the bodies of dead soldiers to push your bullshit, okay?

It's fucking offensive to those of us who have reason to celebrate Memorial Day.

[former9thward]

43. The offensive posts have been from you.

Claiming they are going to be advisory just because "combat operations" were declared over last year. What an ugly thing to post on Memorial Day.

[provis99]

11. yeah, just like Vietnam War "advisors".

Post FAIL.

[ClarkUSA]

17. Apples and oranges. Are you going to go back to WWII as well?

We did pretty well as "advisors" there, as I recall.

[provis99]

40. so, do you plan on writing something that isn't stupid?

[Occulus]

12. And when in recent history has "could" meant anything but "will"? n/t

[tekisui]

14. When it comes to the Pentagon, ALWAYS!

[ClarkUSA]

22. Such absolutism is not true, especially with a CIC to check them such as Pres. Obama.

It may be fashionable to condemn the Pentagon, but that's faulting the tail for wagging the dog.

In recent history under this President:

Gen. McChrystal didn't get the 80K troop surge/10 year Afghanistan war commitment he and Hillary lobbied hard for.

President Obama ended the Iraq war as promised.

President Obama killed OBL as promised, without using drones as the Pentagon wanted.

Libya's gov't. is falling apart without massive involvement by the US.

Afghanistan will soon be winding down, with combat troops due to start leaving this July.

President Obama has also threatened to veto the Teabagger House's "war without end" amendment to the War Powers Act.

[tekisui]

23. Bullshit on Libya and Afghanistan.

We'll be in Afghanistan past 2014. Who the fuck knows when we'll ever leave Libya, War Powers Act be damned.

[ClarkUSA]

26. Again with the crystal ball. It must be nice not having to prove anything you say.

:rofl:

[tekisui]

28. We'll see, won't we?

I choose critical thought and watching trends over blind faith.\

ETA, the Afghanistan date is all over the place. We'll have troops past 2014, that had long been conceded. Pay attention.

[ClarkUSA]

30. You have been wrong on so many counts re: President Obama. I think you'll remain true to form.

"Critical thought"? You didn't even read your own OP article until I pointed out you were wrong. You couldn't even get the troop number right.

"blind faith" = Is that when a person thinks she knows the future based on zero facts?

"watching trends" is what I've done over the past two years, watching President Obama's critics rip him apart only to be confounded when he proves them wrong, time and again.

:rofl:

[tekisui]

31. 2014 for Afghanistran has been conceded. Sorry you don't

chose to pay attention.

[ClarkUSA]

34. Another red herring? Did your crystal ball tell you that?

:rofl:

Gotta go... got a hot date. I'll leave you alone with your crystal ball. :rofl:

[ClarkUSA]

19. Sorry, but I'm not interested in replying to meaningless rhetoric.

[tekisui]

24. Yet you replied.

:rofl:

[ClarkUSA]

27. Yawn

:boring:

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[Forkboy]

42. And replied again.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Just some history for ya

no matter what the SOFA says, advisors were killed in Vietnam, for example, after 1973 in COMBAT.

Knowing history is pesky by the way, I know.

[Swede]

18. They're relieving another brigade.

That's how it works.

[tekisui]

21. And scheduled to be there a year. 5 months past when they should be.

[ClarkUSA]

32. It's conditional. There is nothing certain about the length of their Iraq deployment at the moment.

[tekisui]

33. It is conditional, just like Obama's promise.

Troops may very well stay past 2011. I am betting they will.

[ClarkUSA]

35. Prove that Pres. Obama's promise has anything to do with these troops' conditional Iraq deployment.

If anything, it's up to the Iraqis and how much they want the US advisory role to continue. They sure don't act like they do.

[tekisui]

37. Prove what? That troops staying in Iraq is conditional?

You just admitted it!!:rofl:

[ClarkUSA]

38. I proved that, to counter your assertion that these 250 troops will be there a year.

Glad you admit it. Read my reply again.

[TheKentuckian]

36. Relieve for what, bring em home not rotate them.

[Modern_Matthew]

39. Anyone that takes information like this at face value should seriously avoid any Nigerian e-mails.

EOM

[Angleae]

44. Is the rest of brigade getting deployed?

A full brigade has about 3000-4000 people in it.