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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:07 PM
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Ayn Rand: "Religion is a psychological weakness...
"I regard it as evil."

As they say, a broken clock...

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TxCWbTqz9s&feature=player_embedded
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:10 PM
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1. I don't give a rat's ass what she says. nt
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They_Live Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:28 PM
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4. + 1000
Nicely stated.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:44 PM
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7. As if I do?
I posted it to help the lurking freepigs and hopefully help others, who hide behind the bible, see what they're buying into. Take a chill pill.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:19 AM
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27. I appreciate the post. I live in Arkansas, and having quick facts like these..
Can help in a rapid-fire argument.

I've given up trying to fight with the religious fundies, so I like to show them that the politicians they support are about as far from Jesus Christ as one can get.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:11 PM
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2. And "Objectivism" is a religion.
Edited on Sun May-29-11 11:11 PM by bemildred
And a very dogmatic one too, but lacking an anthropomorphic deity.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:18 PM
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3. It does have a deity though,
the "free" market.

which, ironically, would not be so "free" if they got their way, considering the fact that an unregulated market tends toward monopolies.
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:29 PM
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5. Jesse "The Body" Ventura a professional wrestler who was also
governor of Minnesota said, "Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business."

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:32 PM
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6. I only wish that *this* were her most lasting and influential work:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:46 PM
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8. Rocktivity: "Religion isn't quite as psychologically weak
as Ayn Rand."

:headbang:
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Viking 1 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:55 PM
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9. Ironic, since so many Republicans seem to worship her
:puke:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:14 AM
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11. That's because they're too uninformed to know what she stood for. n/t
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:13 AM
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10. If she hates it, it can't be all bad. n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:41 AM
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12. Far-right-libertarianism and market-worship are also religions (nt)
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:40 AM
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16. Exactly +1
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:54 AM
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13. There's something I agree with her on.
The rest, no.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:56 AM
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14. Havn't read her book.
Edited on Mon May-30-11 02:58 AM by RandomThoughts
But that sounds like they see 'faith' as a crutch.

That can be the thoughts of those that see existence as despair, then from that perspective believe people of faith are in delusion by weakness.

It is also possible existence is not despair, and through knowing that, a person finds the supernatural in a way that can help many people, but if you are in despair you never see it.


I am due beer and travel money, and that needs to be sent. And I am not talking of the metaphor, although justice and compassion is really important, and I appreciate all the people that add to justice and compassion many who have helped me also. I am talking about balance, and how there is an actual due of beer and travel money, literally.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 03:01 AM
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15. She also said that there are no contradictions, so when encountering one, examine one's premise
So she was right on a couple of things; her worldview simply doesn't work for the human being, and it's ugly.
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Pubs_R_Racist Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:45 AM
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17. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
Napoleon Bonaparte
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:49 AM
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18. She was a moron who wrote horrible books. Who cares what she said?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:52 AM
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19. It isn't always. Would you call Pastor Niemoller weak?
Of Pastor Bonhoffer? Or Thomas Merton?
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Pubs_R_Racist Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:56 AM
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21. THose you listed
are the EXCEPTION not the rule.

They would have been good people and made the impact they did with or without religion IMHO.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:59 AM
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23. yeah, but one can list many more
in any case, I think it can be argued that the majority of humans are psychologically weak whether they use religion as a crutch or something else.
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Pubs_R_Racist Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:10 AM
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24. Yes most are psychologically weak
very few are self actualized.

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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:53 AM
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20. Well, many or most religions today teach total or near-total obedience to authority.
That is dangerous.

She’s wrong though. If anything, religions exploit psychological weaknesses that already exist — but they are not alone in doing this.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:53 AM
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22. OH SNAP, don't tell the wingnuts that Saint Ayn regards them as weak
:rofl:
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:42 AM
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25. and Hitler was nice to dogs, while MLK was a serial adulterer
People are not one dimensional, even those whose reputations are.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:10 AM
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26. Gandhi was a wife beater. nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 08:13 PM
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29. another good example. nt
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:21 AM
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28. You Can't Be An Ayn Rand Disciple And A Good Christian.

Something to remember the next time you encounter an "Atlas Shrugged" zombie......
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