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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:51 PM Original message |
NYC to spend one billion on consultants while firing 4,100 teachers. |
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bluesbassman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. We are in bizzaro times my friends. Can't get over this quote... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That's not bizarre. That's the new deal. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The New Normal. Arne's words. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Of course. Because, to arne, children are worth less - or worthless. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. it's bizarre nonetheless. psychotic, even. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. True "ed consultant" story from 2010 |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. lol. and they get paid the big bucks. consultantsies in my experience are sometimes |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Ha Ha |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. We have to find a new "new normal". |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Many very vocal DUers are FINE with this. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yes, they are. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. yes |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. to talk about how all those fresh young cheap teachers will fix those ny schools the lazy unionized |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. There are threads they avoid, like this one... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I am sooooooo hopeful |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. +1. Esp . for putting it this way: |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Thanks (blush). |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Their silence and acquiescence mark them. The are neocon enablers. |
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erodriguez (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. To add insult to injury there have been many scandals involving DOE consultants defrauding the city |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Infuckingsane! ... Yup, that's the right word. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
9. As bad as it sounds, the reality is much worse. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. "such disarray, such malevolence, such chaos, such venality, such stupidity" |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. hmm.... |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. He's not stupid; he's ignorant. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. True that, |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Au contraire! Washington has a clue all right. Obama (and Arne) |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Bringing in TFA? Adding to the insult. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. TFA |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
48. The TFAers aren't really inrerested in teaching . . . |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Not always true, but may be the norm. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. FWIW, |
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erodriguez (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Don't forget there is also tons of ed grads from NYC's public college system that are locked out |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. Interesting comment about TFA in the comment section...the cost. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. "The extra money goes to TFA for administrative costs" |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. k&r |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. That's usually how the grand theft starts |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That is true. The "dehumanizing" and deprofessionalizing" has gone on a long time. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. Proof POSITIVE |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. Durn, mad... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Reco |
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dakota_democrat (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. One BILLION??? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. It is hard to fathom. 982 million to consultants. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. hmm... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. A bunch of yo-yos who say 'enhance' when they mean 'improve' (my |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. This is just legalized theft. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is taxpayer money, right? |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Indeed it is. nt |
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xpertanalyst (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
38. Hold on a second |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I am sorry but I don't feel that much compassion for reformer consultants. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. There is an assumption that all the consultants are reformer consultants |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. Convince me that these consultants contribute more |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
42. Shoveling almost $1 b to consultants? |
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distilledvinegar (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. about 11,000 in my district |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Just plain wrong. |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
49. The best consultants ARE the teachers. n/t |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. The whole basis of "reform" is to deny them any voice or influence. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. Consulting has been a hustler's game for many years now |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
52. I'd like to know who the consultants are. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I understand many are online education company reps. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. My nephew is doing that online education thing this fall, not sure how it works. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. I agree. Keep the teachers. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
59. How are they justifying this retardation or are they even trying? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. Privatization, the age old answer to ridding the nation of democracy -- !! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
64. Kick! This is criminal. |
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