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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:11 AM
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Detroit Disassembled
Tim Tower of the WSWS recently spoke to photographer Andrew Moore, whose Detroit Disassembled reveals the devastation of the city as “a multi-facetted metaphor of America.”

(Slideshow at link)

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/detr-j05.shtml

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/art/blog/2010/01/andrew-moore-detroit-disassembled.html

TT:

Let me ask you about the term “right-sizing” as it applies to Detroit. I remember a discussion with some architects and students about designing for New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. In one case a student had been encouraged to approach the problem of the destruction of the city as if it were no more serious than the stretching of a rubber band, or the expansion and contraction of a ball of rubber bands. However, the situation in that city is not a game. The lives of tens of thousands of people were at stake.

The same is true in Detroit. As you say, it is a symbol of our country, our entire social system. When the mayor talks about “right-sizing,” he approaches the population with a crass brutality which is being deliberately obscured by that term. What they are proposing …

AM:

...cutting off city services and forcing people to move. And it’s always about moving poor people, and generally, poor, black people. Those are the only people who get moved. Maybe some judge will say it’s constitutional to cut off people’s water and gas and force them to move. I don’t know. I think it is very coercive—an extreme measure. It may be efficient, but I don’t know if it’s ethical or legal.

TT:

There is a war going on in America. It is being fought by one side. And the other side…

AM:

...hasn’t even gotten to the battlefield.

TT:

Yes. Your book plays a role in that. It is a wake-up call.

AM:

Most people in America have no idea what Detroit looks like. Even people who live in the suburbs of Detroit might say, ‘You just photographed the bad parts,’ or ‘We only lock our car doors when we go downtown.’

When you really get into what is there, the hospitals and the schools and the libraries and the waste and the corruption, it’s hard to take—the waste in particular.

The most disturbing part of photographing Detroit was certainly the schools—not just Cass Tech, which was the flagship of corruption and waste. But in so many of these elementary schools and middle schools, the books and the computers were just left.

I had a hard time. Even making pictures in those spaces was hard.

TT:

We talk to teachers all the time. There is a carve-up taking place. This is the model for education in America. They are down-sizing, “right-sizing,” the school system with a meat cleaver.

AM:

To literally build a new Cass Tech next to the old one and not even move a test tube 500 feet to the new building—I don’t understand that.

There is a beautiful print shop with lead type and a photography lab—all just left there. That I don’t understand. Every school that we went into was the same story. Things just left. It was mind-boggling.


TT:

The school book depository by the train station…

AM:

It was originally the postal warehouse, which makes sense because the trains would come in with all the mail and the packages, and then there was an underground conveyor belt between the train station and that warehouse. They brought all the mail there. When the post office gave it up sometime in the 1960s, the public school system took it over and made it into their warehouse. There are books, report cards, art paper, toys, crayons, everything that you would need to run a school. Mountains of it.

TT:

Today teachers in the public schools in Detroit—you may not be aware of this—regularly purchase paper, pencils, crayons so that their students will have something to write with; and they are frequently the ones who are blamed, and even fired, when students who are suffering in terrible conditions do not perform well in mandated tests.

AM:

I don’t understand a system that breeds so much wastefulness. I am a registered Democrat. But after this work in Detroit, I am disgusted by the corruption of our system. I have never felt more despairing of political solutions. I am disappointed in Obama. I feel that the left is totally scattered and needs to be energized and even radicalized. It’s all rigged for the rich, the tax structure, everything.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/inte-j05.shtml


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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:23 AM
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1. When I google-earthed Detroit,`
I zoomed in on my old neighborhood. I was shocked. The multitude of empty foundations along Schoolcraft was creepy. It conveys a visual of a sad city resigned to blight.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:02 AM
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2. This once
great city is now in need of so much.

Read an article earlier today (oops, yesterday):
The Next Page / Broken windows in the Motor City: A Detroit exit journal

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11002/1114667-109.stm#ixzz1A96c6CKF
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11002/1114667-109.stm
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:08 AM
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3. Lots of cities in similar situation. The downtown of my own town was blighted circa
the Reagan recession, by the same forces; withdrawl of capital & financial games.

That to me is the most important point to remember. It's no accident, not the operation of impersonal, god-like forces; it's deliberate.

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:58 AM
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7. Here's my little house. The same neighborhood as the reporter from your article.


:cry:

We moved out 15 years ago last summer. We sold it
for 22,000, and 5 years later it was assessed
at $98,000....and it was abandoned a year later.

Now you could probably buy it for $5,000. The
homes around it are in worse shape, because there
were quite a few wood houses, and they have been
burned or rotted out.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:26 PM
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11. There were about 20 homes on our block, now
there's about 12. The old foundations are like ghosts.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 07:16 AM
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22. It hurts
to see what has happened. :hug:
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:51 AM
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4. K&R'd
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:27 AM
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5. Waste is part of what drives the economic system.
All human institutions are corrupt -- governments, churches, charities, businesses -- and have been for thousands of years. Lies, propaganda and marketing are all wasteful, yet deeply ingrained in our civilization. People worry about China taking over the world but if you want to see waste and corruption on an epic scale there it is.

We have wars now for their own sake. We can't "win" in Afghanistan but winning isn't the goal of those running the war.

War is wasteful, immoral and messy but Germany makes some of the best cars in the world because her archaic factories were destroyed by bombs (and stolen by the Russians) but then replaced with new, efficient factories. The USA hasn't hosted a war in almost 100 years so there is no horrible eraser wiping out neighborhoods and factories. Just as we have exiled our wars, we have also exiled our rebuilding of infrastructure.

I'm not defending waste or wars, just saying that the decay in all the Detroits of America has been ongoing pretty much since the 1950s. If the choice is really between decay and war, I'd have to choose decay.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 08:43 AM
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6. k&r
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 09:11 AM
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8. and another really bad consequence of this "Cass Tech" story...
it only takes a single story like this to give eternal life to the zombie "govt is the problem" myth that fuels the austerity debacle going on right now.

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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 09:18 AM
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9. Detroit is not a "metaphor of America"
It is a special situation where layers and layers and layers of greed and corruption took hold and destroyed all facets of the city. Add to that the massive loss of jobs and industries in Detroit, and it was the "perfect storm". It is hardly a "metaphor of America" rather it is a classic example of what powerful, corrupt leaders will do to a city when they have no rules, and the migration of populations that happens due to a change in industry and the economy and a mass loss of jobs. The people who can will move to where the jobs are and those waiting around for the jobs to come back will just suffer.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 10:16 AM
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10. k&r
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:37 PM
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12. Why highlight this rip-off artist? Seriously--The Fabulous Ruins of Detroit
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 11:39 PM by msanthrope
have been around since 1996---by people who live there. And it is free.

http://detroityes.com/home.htm

Andrew Moore is an opportunist who doesn't even live there...an 'artist' selling pictures to be had for free on the Internet since 1996.

An artist selling pictures of ruin.... it's called 'ruin porn.'





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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:42 PM
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13. +1...nt
Sid
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:52 PM
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15. Indeed--anyone who actually knows about Detroit knows about the Fabulous Ruins--
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 12:03 AM by msanthrope
Andrew Moore plays well to the crowd that doesn't....

and on edit--I'm laughing my ass off--Andrew Moore's blog makes sure to highlight his Wall Street Journal interview--

not the WSWS one...

http://www.andrewlmoore.com/blog.php
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:45 PM
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14. Here
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:53 PM
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16. Why pay for what you can get for free? Since 1996--
http://detroityes.com/home.htm

The fabulous ruins of Detroit--made by people who LIVE there....not 'ruin porn' artist/tourists....
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:04 AM
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17. I simply posted a link to the photographer's home page
why rip me a new one?


This place offers new ways to make me forget I'm a Liberal every day.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:11 AM
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18. No--I thank you for that link, and I should have made that clear--
Sorry--

No, I followed your link and found that Andrew Moore's blog highlights his Wall Street Journal interview. Doesn't mention the one quoted in the OP...so, thank you!!!!

http://www.andrewlmoore.com/blog.php



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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:14 AM
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19. and the wsj named his book containing photos that you have to "pay for"
as top pick in their coffee table books selection.

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:35 AM
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20. So glad the far left and the far right agree on coffee table art.....
Seriously.

Hats off to Andrew Moore, and his shtick...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:37 AM
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21. lol. quite different from your response to the person who posted the link to the wsj.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 12:38 AM by Hannah Bell
that's ok, i know i'd get snark from you if i posted links to kitties rescuing babies from a burning building.
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