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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 04:48 PM
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Liberal Christians- this one's for you. Editorial in my paper
Feel free to write a rebuttal to the editor, Neal.
( neal.white@wninews.com )

http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2011/05/26/opinion/doc4dde8b9609b6e034924936.txt
What would Jesus cut?
Published: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:35 PM CDT
Dr. Shawn Ritenour
Grove City College

That is the question asked by the left-leaning Christian organization, Sojourners, in its campaign of the same name. It is a most appropriate question given the battle over the budget and given this time of year, not long after the most holy holiday of the year for Christians.

Sojourners claims that, despite record budget deficits and national debt, reducing subsidies for things like vaccines and bed nets in Africa, school lunch programs, early childhood education, and income maintenance in the United States is immoral. Indeed, such subsidies, Sojourners says, “are dollars we can’t afford to not invest.”

What are we to make of these claims? Certainly we are called to love our neighbor as ourselves and this love, when directed toward the poor and needy, must manifest itself by providing real material help to those who truly need it. It is not enough merely to wish a suffering soul to be warm and well fed. We must be willing to put our money where our mouth is.

It is a mistake, however, to treat as materially poor those who merely have lower incomes than others. For example, the average officially “poor” American has more living space than the average person living in Paris or London. Sixty-two percent of officially poor American homes have satellite or cable television and nearly 75 percent own an automobile. In the United States, what passes for poor certainly does not imply destitution.

Most important, we need to remember that the ends never justify the means, especially for the Christian. Good intentions are never enough to establish an action’s ethical validity. Scripture not only ordains ends we are called to pursue; it also guides us regarding the means that are acceptable to use in achieving those ends.

We should keep these principles in mind when considering Sojourners’ campaign. The campaign correctly notes that societal righteousness is not measured by GDP or military spending; also one of the good works demonstrated by righteous people is charity to the poor. This is all true.

Yet, a fundamental problem with Sojourners’ program is the assumption that what “we” do must be done by the state. It is a large and not logically necessary leap from “We are called to be charitable to the poor,” to “A righteous society will have an extensive welfare state.” Consider:

In the first place, it is not clear at all that the programs mentioned above have been proven effective. There is much literature documenting the ineffectiveness of foreign aid in producing sustainable development, which is the best way to reduce poverty in less developed nations.

Domestically, the link between welfare programs and personal development is so tenuous that even Bill Clinton thought that welfare reform was wise. Like it or not, institutional entitlement payments to the poor encourages idleness, one of the primary reasons that many households earn low incomes. Along with an absent father, one of the main reasons for impoverished children in this country is parents who do not work much. Subsidizing idleness through the federal budget is not going to solve this problem.

The message from Sojourners also errs by assuming that money spent on these projects is investment. In fact, the money spent resembles government consumption. Investment is the voluntary directing of saved income toward capital accumulation and the employment of that capital in its most productive use. Calling government spending “investment,” when that spending is funded by coercive taxation or monetary inflation, is doing violence to language.

For that matter, forcing taxpayers to pay for such programs, even if worthwhile, likewise does violence to the citizenry. It is a violation of the Christian ethic of property and, hence, cannot be accepted as a truly Christian approach to ministering to the poor. If Christ wishes us to adhere to the ethics He has revealed to us in Scripture, perhaps Jesus would want us to cut a lot more government spending than Sojourners assumes.

A better solution would be for the church to be the church. Local congregations should fully fund their diaconate and charge them with earnestly ministering to the needs of the poor as they become aware. The diaconate should be pro-active and eager to minister. However, they should be wise in their ministration, so as not to promote the very problems they seek to alleviate. More importantly, the church should preach the Gospel to everyone, making disciples of all people.

This two-pronged approach will minister to both the material poverty of the poor, and, more importantly, the spiritual poverty of those who do not know Him.



Dr. Shawn Ritenour is a professor of economics at Grove City College, contributor to The Center for Vision & Values, and author of “Foundations of Economics: A Christian View.”

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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 04:55 PM
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1. This is attempted justification for selfishness. I agree with Sojourners Philosophy.
This doctrine of leaving it all to the "church" to take care of the poor might work if everyone felt charitable towards the needy. Unfortunately, most people are greedy and selfish. The churches can only catch a few who fall between the cracks. I believe society must take up the slack. How that is done can be argued, but not the basic tenet.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 04:57 PM
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2. Well put, Dr. Ritenour
Sincerely,
The Pharisees
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:00 PM
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3. hehe... that's a good rebuttal.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:03 PM
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4. I forgot to send his payment
Where would one address his 30 dimes?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:05 PM
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5. !!!
:applause:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:06 PM
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6. I'd love to know what his definition of POOR is
Edited on Thu May-26-11 05:09 PM by Warpy
because I know I didn't get a satellite dish until 5 years ago when I inherited my dad's portfolio. I never had cable or satellite, that's right. My computer was my window on the world and mostly because I'd gotten grandfathered into cheap DSL when I saw the cables being laid. My computers were jerrybuilt arrangements and I fixed them myself when they conked out. My color TV cost me $50 at a thrift shop, which is where most of my furniture came from. There was no thrift shop cable and I'm too honest to steal it even though I had means and knowledge.

I think this colossal idiot must feel that anyone making under 6 figures is poverty stricken.

The churches have never had either the means nor the inclination to care for all the poor, which is why they've restricted their social work, where it even exists, to their own congregations unless they have members of those congregations willing to pay their own way on junkets to the third world.

If anyone needs to be dragged out of bed at 3 AM and hogtied and sent to be reeducated by the peasants, it's this selfish joker. I suggest he visit any of the colonias here in NM to find out what real poverty is like.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:10 PM
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8. I'll introduce him to the vast uninsured here in RED TEXAS.
The majority of young families here are uninsured. If Texas has it's way, there will be no health care for anyone- not even babies.I see so many kids with no dental insurance, passing the cup to get mom's cancer treatment because they have no health insurance and mom works an hourly job with no sick leave.


yeah,that's just what jesus wants- let them starve and die.It'll show them.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:07 PM
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7. Stuff like this makes me want to jump off a cliff.
If the Son meant the words he spoke, I hope ugly people like this get a big shock.

I wonder if they know -- or care -- how many people they hurt.

Christian? Bah, humbug.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:12 PM
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9. What, exactly, is "the Christian ethic of property"?
I'm not a churchgoer these days, but my recollections from Sunday School are that Jesus didn't care much about property, and in fact said that you should give it all away: "Jesus said to him, If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me." (Matthew 19:21) So isn't the Christian ethic of property basically that you should use it to benefit the needy?

The conservative view seems to be that it is wrong (sinful?) to use the government's power of taxation to take property for the benefit of others - it's tantamount to stealing. But where does the Bible say that? Jesus, when asked whether people were required to pay taxes to Rome, said you should render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. And Ghandi interpreted that statement as follows: "Jesus evaded the direct question put to him because it was a trap. He was in no way bound to answer it. He therefore asked to see the coin for taxes. And then said with withering scorn, “How can you who traffic in Caesar’s coins and thus receive what to you are benefits of Caesar’s rule refuse to pay taxes?”" So you might argue that if you receive the benefits of the government you are obligated to pay taxes, which redound to the benefit of everyone.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:18 PM
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10. I'm assuming most Christians follow the sayings of Jesus.
Edited on Thu May-26-11 05:19 PM by w8liftinglady
matthew 19:20-23

21 And he said, "All these I have observed from my youth."
22 And when Jesus heard it, he said to him, "One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
23 But when he heard this he became sad, for he was very rich.


23 And Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven

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