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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:28 PM
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What do we gain when we call someone a slut?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:29 PM
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1. Nothing
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:30 PM
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2. However much the bet was that we'd be too chickenshit to do it?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:31 PM
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3. A shit storm on DU, that's what. nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:32 PM
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4. Ritual humiliation because we feel compelled to present our hindquarters in submission to the enemy.
Edited on Wed May-25-11 11:32 PM by backscatter712
I'm not saying Ed was in the right to call Laura Ingraham a slut, I'm just saying we shouldn't lower our defenses and submit to their ritual humiliation game.

Never apologize to the enemy.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:36 PM
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5. Pathetic
This is just pathetic.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:36 PM
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6. lol that's called being "bipartisan" nt
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 12:11 AM
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14. +1
n/t
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:40 PM
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7. We gain disrespect for women, which leads to ...
laws that discriminate against women (such as curtailing choice and right to privacy, inequality in pay) and personal behavior that assumes its okay to be physically or mentally abusive to women. That's what we get. If you think there isn't a correlation, think again. Gay Americans will not gain equality until people stop calling them faggots and women will not gain equality until people stop calling them sluts every time they disagree with them.

There are ways to disagree with and even insult people without calling them faggots, Jews, terrorists, n**gers, or sluts. Clearly, however, I am in a minority here at DU, where the race to the bottom seems to be applauded.

And I have a mouth like a sailor.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:43 PM
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8. Don't worry, Laura is making plenty of money
Ironically, off a book that proves her to be a racist ****.

* - Yeah, that word.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:49 PM
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:53 PM
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11. agree
Thank you.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:13 AM
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22. Yep.
It's a shame that we're in the minority here, on a 'progressive' board. The race to the bottom continues.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:16 AM
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23. I don't think you're in the minority anywhere and very well said. nt
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:51 PM
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10. A blast from the past
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:55 PM
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12. Self righteous indignation that is exactly the same as a sugar high
But then again, we know that misogyny is pretty much forgiven so long as the right people are on the giving and receiving ends. We still have people doing dips and turns to somehow excuse DSK, and now this from Ed.

At least Ed gave a proper apology.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 12:14 AM
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15. You've got to be kidding--comparing DSK and Ed's situations?
And, no, I don't see the majority of DUers offering forgiveness to DSK... while they may try to retain some sense of "innocent until proven guilty" as more and more evidence as come out, I think he is rightfully being excoriated. The court of public opinion is, after all, very separate from the judicial system.

Yes, Ed made a proper apology and I wish he were back on the air tomorrow. But, his gender-based slur was wrong and he acknowledged it as such. I'm sure he won't use it again. But, damn, there is nothing to equate between Ed and DSK!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:57 PM
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13. Another dollop of sexism in the world, that's what.
There are brazillions of ways to insult people who deserve it without resorting to slurs based on gender or sexuality (or any other thing that affects countless people who share that quality with the insultee who don't deserve it).


I'm glad Ed apologized. It was the right thing to do, and it showed strength and intelligence and the fact that he *gets it.* No one is perfect, we all say things we shouldn't, and he was enough of a man to recognize it when he did so. Right-wing douchebags never admit they were wrong and never apologize - we should NOT emulate them.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 12:17 AM
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16. And what the fuck do we lose? Any who really gives a flying fuck 'bout that?
I call my dog a slut, all three are sluts, and one is a male. :shrug:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 12:26 AM
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18. I think we lose some of our reputation as the grown-ups.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 01:45 AM
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20. we have a "reputation" as the "grown-ups"? can you prove that?
Edited on Thu May-26-11 01:46 AM by Hannah Bell
how come the "grown-ups" always get taken to the woodshed to say "i'm sorry daddy"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:15 AM
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25. It's like how Karl Marx has a reputation fot being anti-Semitic.
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 01:35 AM
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19. Just wondering...
Do you call your mother, sister or daughter a slut?
Would you take offense if someone else did?

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 01:47 AM
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21. none of my female relations would think talking about how michelle obama jes loves her ribs
was funny.

so i wouldn't call them ignorant sluts.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 12:22 AM
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17. I might get a bill if I call someone a cab.
What do I gain when I call someone mechanic? Or a CSR? Or a janitor? Or anything for that matter?

No profit motive.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:17 AM
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24. Who's this "we" calling someone a slut?
It was Ed Shultz, and he has been suspended... correctly, in my view.
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