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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:55 PM
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We must cut spending -starting with salaries and pensions for congress
In my job I don't ask emplyees to sacrifice more than myself or to do anything I would not do - if the GOP want to cut spending they can start with themselves
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:58 PM
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1. Finally you and I agree on something - their benefits ought to go too. nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 07:58 PM
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2. In tough times, everyone should sacrifice
When they settle for 40k a year, then I'll work for 15k a year.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:00 PM
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3. Not enough millionaires in it already?
Because if it's staffed by self-funding volunteers, that's what you'll get even more of.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:07 AM
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10. I think we should means-test it. If they're millionaires already, they can volunteer. For can-
didates who aren't millionaires, double their salaries.

Maybe that will bring in some fresh blood.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 08:39 PM
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4. +10 nt
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:46 PM
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5. There are plenty of places to shave the Congressional budget.
1st) No pensions and lifetime health policies for felons.
2nd) F*** that. No pensions or lifetime health policies for anyone in Congress. The last thing we should do is encourage them to stay in office until they die.
3rd) Congressional allowances range between $700,000 - $1.6 million PER MEMBER. That seems like an excellent place.

Just some things off the top of my head.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:26 AM
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12. The entire legislative branch...
...including the Library of Congress, and the Architect of the Capitol, costs about $5.2 billion a year.

The slice of that that goes to compensating members of Congress is minuscule.

The federal budget for 2011 is about $3.8 trillion.

That's about 1.4% of the total. For the entire legislative branch.

Pure symbolic politics. Showboating. Gestures.

We complain when the GOP does it. It's not any more serious when done on the left.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 11:27 PM
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6. personally, I don't think ANY Congresscritter should get a pension for 2 years in office
Let's put limits on those pensions and health benefits they walk away with. Pensions should START only after 25 years service. And they should have to deal with Cobra as soon as they leave office.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 11:43 PM
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7. They don't get a pension after only serving two years. n/t
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 11:59 PM
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8. Members of Congress have to serve 5 years for a pension.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:04 AM
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9. they still should NOT get a pension before 25 years service
And forget the health benefits too.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:12 AM
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11. The federal ERISA law says pension plans have to offer a
pension after 5 years. This includes all pensions private or public. If the change you want were made in the law then someone who works at a factory could be fired after 24 years and not receive any pension. I don't think that would go over too well.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:49 AM
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13. hogwash -- the law could be written specifically NOT to give pensions to Congress
What -- you don't think there wouldn't be anyone willing to re-write that law, specifically to pensions to Congress, and take them out of the equation until they've worked for 25 years?

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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:58 AM
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15. Since Congress would be the ones to re-write the law
then No, I don't think anyone would be willing to write themselves out of a pension. But good luck with that.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 10:54 AM
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14. Their pensions should be
in line with that of their constituents. That means they would get no pensions or health care at all. Now that would be a law that a majority of Americans could get behind.
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