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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:14 AM
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Scott Brown (R-MA) gets it right.
Senator Scott Brown said he will vote against the GOP budget that proposes sweeping Medicare changes, saying the current system should be improved

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2011/05/brown_to_oppose.html?p1=News_links
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:16 AM
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1. Brown is a bigger flip-flopper than Romney.
He's pissing everyone off at one point or another.

He'll be gone in '12.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:23 AM
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3. If he's gone in 2012 it's because the tea party runs a candidate against him in the primaries
it'll be an interesting race for sure.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:25 AM
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4. Nothing like a good old family feud to get the juices flowing. n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:32 AM
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6. Nahh...I don't think he'll be gone...
He won on a lot of Independent votes.

He may again. Plus I'm not so sure any Republicans who voted for him would want to see him lose to a Democrat who might run against him no matter how pissed off they might be.

If there's a Republican candidate, he'd have to appeal to the Independent voters, who I'm sure would go with what they already know.

Nope. I see Scott Brown making it through '12.

I didn't vote for him, but he's turning out not as bad as I thought he would be.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:37 AM
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8. Seriously? This guy is an embarrasment for the state,
His scrambling for this Medicare issue is amazing, and it is not the first time he is that lost.

TPM has the good title on this one

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/05/running_for_the_hills.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Talking-Points-Memo+%28Talking+Points+Memo%3A+by+Joshua+Micah+Marshall%29

Running for the Hills
Josh Marshall | May 23, 2011, 9:56AM


Scott Brown was praising Medicare phase out only a couple weeks ago and saying he'd vote for it. Then he hedged. And now he's criticizing phase out in an oped in Politico and saying he'll vote against.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:53 AM
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10. yeah, well...
A lot of Republicans said the same thing about John Kerry.

first he was for the war (in Iraq) then he was against it.


I'm all for believing that someone can have an opinion about something and then change his mind when more information comes in.

I think that's a lot less embarrassing than choosing a position and then not wavering at all no matter WHAT information turns up later.


Not liking the fact that he's a Republican, but I am willing to give the guy a chance.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:59 AM
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13. More information comes in???? This is the plan his OWN party proposed.
It was available for him to read and, if he did not know what was in the plan, why did he speak about him. BTW, he never said he changed his mind. He tries to claim he did not say what he actually said.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:48 AM
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9. Is Massachusetts an open or closed primary?
That's how Christine O'Donnell upset Mike Castle - closed primaries. Massachusetts is alot like Delaware in that it it's a blue state but has alot of independant voters. A closed primary means that the tea party could run someone against Brown and probably pull off an upset win. Mike Castle, who had not lost an election in his 40 year career couldn't survive a closed primary where the sane people were not allowed to vote (independants and moderate democrats).

Open primary means that the independants and moderate dems that support Brown could vote in the GOP primary and save Brown's butt.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:26 PM
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18. Open...
...And it's fun.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:58 AM
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12. Not unless a good dem declares he or she is running against him
He's been under the radar since he got elected, playing it safe. If someone else comes along to challenge him, he may have a fight on his hands.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:59 AM
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14. Setti Warren is running against him.
He's the mayor of Newton, and there's a lot of money in his district. He should have help in DC, too; Barney Frank is his rep.

Still, I know my state pretty well. Brown will unfortunately be difficult to beat.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:37 PM
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19. Yes, I am watching Setti closely.
I thinking I should volunteer soon if he keeps talking the way he has been.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:09 AM
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16. I was surprised to hear Menino say that the Dems don't have someone to beat him
yet.

I'm with you pipi, at this point I see him getting re-elected.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:19 AM
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2. Not really. First, he repeats lies about the Obama healthcare plan in his editorial
Edited on Mon May-23-11 09:21 AM by Mass
Secondly, his contortions to arrive to this position make Mitt Romney look like a straight talker. Definitively not straight talk, but pure opportunism.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:29 AM
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5. Elections are coming, elections are coming!
Massachusetts seems to have regained its sanity and is looking for a dem to fill his empty suit.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:34 AM
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7. The Booger Needs Voting Out Anyway, Sir
No quarter!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:55 AM
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11. No doubt
But for millions of seniors worried about Medicare, this is comforting news.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:03 AM
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15. I guess you could say he was FOR the Tea Party before he was AGAINST it...
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:25 AM
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17. More like he stuck his finger in the political wind
But only after he initially stuck to the teaparty line in the Newburyport fundraiser. Not only is this guy a political opportunist, on top of that he is bad at it! Most of his type know to only voice a position after public opinion on it has been accurately gauged. Not he.

Unfortunately, you are correct when you say he will likely win reelection. MA voters have been snowed by the local media who have nothing but glowing (asskissing) reporting to offer on Brown. Not a word on his missteps, clumsy attention whoring, and general ineptness. As I said before: Coakley's sense of entitlement to TK's seat and bad campaign, coupled with out of state teabag cash flooding in got us this louse in our pelt and it will be difficult to get rid of it.
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