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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:00 PM
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Why would anyone want to leave behind their children, family & beloved pets?
Can someone "splain" that to me? Why would they want to go where friends, family, children and other loved ones--much less those beloved pets and other animals can't go. :shrug: Sounds like hell to me.

As Will Rogers said:
"If there are no dogs in Heaven then, when I die, I want to go where they went."



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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:14 PM
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1. Did you ever see the movie: 'The Rapture'?
I think provides a good example of how this happens. People get so caught up in religion that everything else slips away. That's what happens when you promise people that the other side (a.k.a. 'heaven') is a perfect world just waiting for them.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:15 PM
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11. No... but it is still unfathomable to me to think of willingly
leaving your young children to a horrible hell, if that is what you really believe to be the end result. Unbelievable. :shrug:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:20 PM
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2. When life is all about me, me, me, it ain't too hard
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:28 PM
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3. They're all at rinbow bridge.
The problem is I don't have the directions.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:38 PM
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4. Luke 14:26 n/t
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:46 PM
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5. complete selfishness, i suspect n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:55 PM
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6. It's like some kind of attachment issue.
No one with a good enough relationship to a family or a pet or a friend would do such a thing.
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:58 PM
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7. The assumption might be those people are going too and if they aren't 'you'
did all 'you' could and they simply chose not to do 'life' the right way which would have gotten them with 'you' and Jesus.

But I wouldn't know ain't got no religion.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:06 PM
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8. Good question
Edited on Sat May-21-11 07:16 PM by Cherchez la Femme
Unfortunately these pieces of work

* don't believe animals have souls :eyes:

* as for the friends, family, children and other loved ones; of course it'll be ultimately those peoples fault if they were unrepentant sinners, or *gasp!* Unsaved!!111!1oneoneeleventy-one1!




Sry, but I need more schadenfreude -- Imma gonna go peek at WorldNetDaily :evilgrin:

Update: They're ignoring it, imagine that :>

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:09 PM
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9. Ever listen to gospel music?
I do-- I enjoy a lot of it very much. It's beautiful music. But very often, when you really listen to the lyrics, they sound like poetry from a death cult. Death is looked forward to as a release from 'this horrible world'.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:39 AM
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16. True, but I think a lot of that is due to its slave music roots.
It's quite possible that death would have been a hope for rest at last (I'm a big fan as well).
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 01:13 AM
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18. I think it's something deeper rooted
These people have a death wish. They absolutely want to die because life on earth is completely horrible and repulsive.

That would be okay with me, I guess, if they weren't so adamant on taking the rest of us with them.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 02:16 AM
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19. It's a theme that runs accross all the gospel music I've listened to,
from very white, bluegrass sort of stuff, to the old quartet stuff, etc.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:33 AM
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21. In retrospect, you are right. My dad actually performed bluegrass
music (he was a great fiddler) and now that I think about it it was in that too.

Still, I would say that the fact that all of those genres are rooted in hard work and struggling to survive with that common theme.

:shrug:
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:17 PM
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10. I think many of the fundies around here are just unhappy.
This town had few decent jobs and not much to do, but there are plenty of fundie churches. For those with such stunted lives, almost anything sounds better.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:14 PM
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12. There was an old Twilight Zone episode that dealt with exactly that question

It was the third season, the episode is called "The Hunt".
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:37 PM
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13. So, what was the "gist?"
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 07:26 AM
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20. and old man goes raccoon hunting with his dog
(think Jed Clampett with a bloodhound who still hunts)



He and his dog end up drowning, but he does not remember that at first. He is just lost in some woods he does not recognize.


The "Devil" in the form of a pleasant young man with a country accent tries to get the old man to enter a gate without his dog, telling him that it is heaven but that the dog isn't allowed.

The old man refuses to go without his dog and decides to just wander out in the woods with his dog.

St. Peter then finds him, also in the guise of a pleasant young man with a country accent, and explains that the other guy was the Devil and that the gate led to Hell.

Then the three of them (including the dog) go off to heaven, once the old man in convinced that his wife will be following shortly and that she won't be tricked by the devil.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:45 PM
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14. Rapture Ready folk don't have family, friends, children, or other loved ones who are heathens nt
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:57 PM
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15. Yep that was a twilight zone episode.
It is worth watching.

Although it has a flaw of superiority in metaphor, most people that need to see that have a change of thought from that episode are in the perspective of that flaw. If you see the episode, you don't see that flaw anymore.

It is called The Hunt.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 12:40 AM
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17. 72 virgins.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:42 AM
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22. I don't get it.
My husband has had two dogs willed to him by his clients, in case anything should happen to them. One couple is quite young, but the man is in the military, so they have a will. My husband will get the dogs in the event that something happens to either family, and they can be at peace knowing their dogs will have very good lives.

I worry whenever my husband and I travel together...what if something happens and we can't go for the dogs. Fortunately, we have friends who would gladly take them. But there is something incredibly wrong, in my mind, with people who would disappear to their "heavenly reward" so callously without regard to those they love.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:44 AM
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23. I don't get it either
The whole concept of Heaven seems to be there for our comfort - that we're one day going to see those we've lost again.


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