POLL: Will you support Barack Obama in his re-election?

[kentuck]

I believe there are more Obama supporters here than detractors? This poll is for informational purposes only.

[ixion]

1. kick for later

interested to see how this turns out.

[Atman]

2. Of course. What are my other choices? Newt? Michelle? Sarah? Pawlenty? Seriously?

Is this even open for debate? Even if you think President Obama has been too kind to the GOP, too willing to go along to get along, what is the option? He is still far and away the candidate that comes closest to the Democratic principles. Lord knows he ain't perfect, far from it...but he's not a Republican. At this point, that's good enough for me.

.

[AsahinaKimi]

31. agree...

Who else is there to vote for? I certainly will not waste my vote with a write in.

[RavensChick]

152. Exactly!!!!

Good enough for me too. I'll be watching the primaries very close to see how quick they stumble all over each other at the finish line!

:popcorn:

[Morning Dew]

3. Assuming

he's the nominee, yes.

Otherwise, I'll go with the nominee.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

4. If there is an in party challenger...I would consider supporting them, depending on who it was

If he is the party's nominee, I will support him

[Tx4obama]

30. There IS a (so-called) democratic challenger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Democratic_Party

p.s. Randall Terry has formally declared.
He was a republican and has switched to the democratic party in order to challenge President Obama in the primary.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

46. How about a serious challenger...

Like everyone else, there are things Obama has done that I do not agree with. If a serious challenger were to emerge from within the party, I might support that person over Obama in the primaries. However, I will support the party nominee regardless.

[derby378]

71. No self-respecting DUer would claim him as a Democratic challenger, even "so-called"

I've had DUers try to trick me into clicking on his links, and it's getting old.

Just because you have a D next to your name doesn't mean you really are a Dem. We learned that the hard way with Lieberman.

[freshwest]

108. Excuse me while I puke on the repuke!

:puke:

[RavensChick]

153. Can I join you?

:puke: :puke:

It's not pretty but it gets the point across.

[RavensChick]

154. Oh, no.

I thought he slid back under the rock he crawled from. Okay, who let this asswipe loose?

Well, I'm not too worried. He'll lose and go back to whatever portal of hell he came from.

[treestar]

5. Fervently. I do not want a Republican President.

I've had enough Republican crap and we get enough of it even when we have a Democratic President! Their constant filibustering and abuse of that system, their tendencies to start wars, their tendency to undo the social safety net.

[Andy823]

15. +1,000,000,000

I think you pretty much said it all. We can afford a republican president who will do to the country what those in power of states like Wisconsin, Main, Florida, and many more are doing to those states! Anyone that thinks otherwise needs some serious help if you ask me! Put a republican in the WH, and they get control of congress we are all going to be paying for it for years and years to come. Look how bad it got with Bush in the WH and republicans in control of congress! It would be 100 times worse than that if we let them take over next year!

[Mojeoux]

20. + Ka-Jillion

[RavensChick]

150. Neither do I,

but unless they wake up from the Rip Van Wrinkle and charge these fucks head on it's gonna get worse.

There are 4 repuke Presidents in my lifetime so far that did nothing but run our economy into the dirt (Nixon, Reagan, Bushie 1 and 2), so trust me when I say this--enough is ENOUGH!

I counted Ford, God rest his soul, as 50/50. At least he didn't jack up the nation too much.

[lunatica]

6. He may not be everything everyone wants but he's still the smartest man in the room

Any room. Any time.

[cyndensco]

9. +1

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Of course

Who else is there?

[panader0]

8. I voted yes

I wonder who voted no........

[Walk away]

10. Republican all vote for their candidate even if they have to fall on their swords to do it.

They are going to be difficult to beat in 2012.

[L0oniX]

11. IP numbers are being recorded for a big pizza party.

:evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[verges]

22. I think, at this point

it would be safe to assume he will be the Democratic candidate. Is anyone else even making serious noise to that effect? Lee Mercer, maybe?

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. You think. That's fine. So let's have purity parties and threaten tombstones

because of what someone thinks.

[verges]

37. And what evidence do you see

that anyone is seriously planning a challenge? I "think" based on evidence (in this case) not fantasies.

[cherokeeprogressive]

40. What I think wasn't the question in the original poll.

The question was about supporting a specific candidate, which I will. I'll support the Democratic nominee. There is nothing in the rules that says one MUST support specific incumbents, rather PARTY nominees.

Do you get why I would chafe at someone gleefully saying there are numbers being collected for a pizza party?

[L0oniX]

25. You should limit yourself to 2 cups of coffee.

[JTFrog]

33. .

:spray:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

94. did skinner, elad and earlg get raptured? if not, i am pretty sure

you have no actual knowledge of what IP addresses are getting recorded

[freshwest]

109. But Google definitely does. And I'd like some pizza.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Maybe. If he miraculously moves to the left and ends his "necessary" wars.

[FarLeftFist]

51. If not then who will you vote for?

[Name removed]

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[OmmmSweetOmmm]

53. Same here.

[FarLeftFist]

54. Such as?

So you're saying you're NOT voting for Obama? Or a republican?

[verges]

13. Even if he may be a little further to the right

than I would like; I realize that a true Liberal, in the current political carnival environment, cannot possibly get elected. And I also realize that even though he is right of center, the Republican candidate (whoever that may be) will most likely be way far (loonyland) right.

I live in Ohio. Kasich country. I'm witnessing what can happen when an extreme rightist achieves high office. I shudder to think what it would be like with someone on the Kasich/Walker ilk in the White House.

There is still a difference between what the Dems offer and what the Repubs offer. Even if both are further to the right than I would like. Either a Republican or a Democrat is going to win the WH in 2012. Which will do the least damage? Which would provide a higher likelihood of judicial appointments that aren't completely insane? How will the Congressional elections go? Does anyone believe that the Dems will re-take the house? Take an overwhelming lead in the Senate? Just imagine what a Republican President could do with a compliant Congress. Could that damage be repaired?

Think about it. It should make it difficult to sleep tonight.


edit to fix spelling.

[Avant Guardian]

16. "a true Liberal, in the current political carnival environment, cannot possibly get elected"

That is a bullshit excuse for acting like a republican.

[verges]

21. Congress still has power.

Working out compromises with a hostile opponent is what it's all about. And how the game works.
He has had a hostile Congress from the beginning. It's amazing he has accomplished what he has. What Liberal Candidate would you propose that could possibly overcome a hostile Congress?

[derby378]

72. That's what Neville Chamberlain once said

We do not compromise with neo-fascists, and we are disappointed that Obama has done so. Hopefully, he is starting to learn his lesson instead of lecturing his progressive base.

[verges]

106. The fascists that Chamberlain was talking about

were in a different country than his. And, he was wrong. The Republicans are in this country and have been legally elected and weild a great deal of power. In that case you either learn to work with them or resort to violence. And the latter is almost always in these situations a bad idea.

[Enthusiast]

120. He can start by

replacing Duncan.

[WheelWalker]

17. Well put.

[leftstreet]

32. Obama got elected by campaigning as a 'true liberal'

Green jobs

'universal' healthcare

tax the rich

no insurance mandates

:shrug:

[verges]

35. And how was he to

accomplish these things without the help of Congress?

[leftstreet]

36. He had Congress for 2 years

His political capital was so huge voters would have tossed any Democrat who wouldn't go along with him

[verges]

38. Really?

He had a non-filibuster proof majority and a Blue Dog caucus that seemed to get joy out of working against him.

[leftstreet]

39. Yes really. He & the Dems had an impressive mandate from the voters

They had complete control over the blue dogs if they wanted to use it

[verges]

41. No.

The Blue Dogs are from basically Republican districts. They need the support of their constituents. If they defy the POTUS, they win more cred with them. If they rollover and co-operate with the POTUS, they lose their seats. And, why, you ask, should that matter if they're basically Republicans anyhow? Because they can still come through on some important issues which a real Repub will not.

Also, it still would have been difficult to overcome the filibuster as the rules are currently written. Remember, Lieberman, even though he caucuses with the Dems, is still aan Independent who was unreliable.

Stop thinking this crap is easy!

[leftstreet]

42. Fascinating how the GOP never has to go left to rep a 'liberal' district

But, oh the trials and tribulations of the poor blue dogs

:rofl:

[comtec]

66. Hairy Reid, the spineless, has always been our problem in the senate

If we had another Pelosi as the Senate Majority leader we could ahve gotten so much done.
but Reid is a useless piece of shit.
i do wish he had lost to that crazy birther lady.
YES we'd be down one more in the senate but that garbage brained, jelly spined, uselese, worthless piece of shit would have been GONE and we would have had another leader!

ANYONE is better than reid

if we had a REAL leader when we had the senate maybe we could have gotten something done, by embarrassing the gop for the treasonous assholes they are.

instead we have reid, the worthless.

As pissed as I am at BO for being such an asshole to us, kicking our teeth in, insulting up every chance his administration gets.... yes he is still better than the alternative which still pisses me off.

i'd like to have a leader that at least says THANK YOU once in a while, as opposed to spit in my eye EVERY FUCKING CHANCE he gets!

will I vote for obama? DUH
seriously what a useless fucking question.
who else is there? really?
am I happy with the president? only a little. I'd like the insults to his base (US) to stop.

we get it takes compromise, but for the love of pete, stop insulting u every fucking chance you get!

[freshwest]

110. Thanks for stating that. Many don't know these details.

[Little Star]

67. I did not see him lead. Maybe if he had and used his bully pulpit...

those blue-dogs and other Dems would have followed. Maybe they had the impression he didn't think "real" HC reform and other Democratic issues were important to him. Without his leading them they followed their own path.

That said, I will be supporting the party's nominee.

[Sheepshank]

116. I honestly believe he had an ideology that was inclusive

and failed to understand (internalize) it would never be the "R" ideology. I think he believed bipartisanship was possible with a little nudge, nurturing and encouragement. Reconciliation etc doesn't provide the other side with the opportunity to be inclusive. That some fail to see this as part of how he governs, as part of Obama's persona, is quite interesting and frankly weird. Whether he learned a lesson that the "R"'s simply don't want to be included or not, is becoming more apparent with the types of comments he makes towards "R"'s and the more recent decisions he is making.

[bluestate10]

97. Those policy initiatives are not left ones.

President Obama campaigned as a center-right candidate. He did not hide that he preferred working across the isle to reach republicans and President Obama was clear that he viewed the Afghan was as a war that the USA should be in. President Obama was clear that while he did not support the war in Iraq, that rapid withdrawal could create great problems. President Obama has not changed from candidate Obama. The far left was so desperate to erase the Fup that some made in 2000 Florida that it heard intent that was not being spoken as heard.

[leftstreet]

107. He didn't reach across either the "isle," or the aisle, until after the election

He also campaigned AGAINST insurance mandates

[bluestate10]

96. You aren't from around these parts, are you?

The arguments that you make have been presented by this poster and others until we turned first red faced, then blue in the face. There are many on DU from the far left that are hell bent on punishing President Obama for perceived slights. I was set to say to hell with them, if they want to self destruct, I am perfectly willing to let them. But good news is coming from recent political contests, democrats are winning. True independents have come to their senses and now see that republicans sold them a sack of shit last november. With independents now wary of republicans, democrats that run effective campaigns will win, even if the far left self destructs. I no longer feel that I can trust or count on the far left and am more comfortable putting my faith in other centrists and independents. Not what you want to hear as a left leaning voter.

[UrbScotty]

14. Smartest president of my lifetime. You bet I'm supporting him!

[coalition_unwilling]

23. How old are you? I'm curious, because I think Carter, Nixon and

Cllnton were arguably "smarter" than BO. Nixon and Clinton were arguably better at politics than BO, in the sense of being able to use the political process to advance their respective agendas.

I voted "It Depends," btw.

[Balbus]

49. Do your parents know you're on a website that has naughty language?

[FarLeftFist]

55. Smartest of my lifetime too!

[LuvNewcastle]

119. I don't know if he's the smartest,

but I'd say that he's definitely the best President in my lifetime. Carter's a good man, but he isn't able to swim with the sharks the way Obama can. Nixon was President when I was born, and he was the second-best Republican President, just behind Clinton.

[glen123098]

19. Yes.

I only agree with Obama about half the time, but I guess half is better than 0 with Romney/Palin/Bachmann/Palwently or whoever wins it.

[one_voice]

24. Yes...

I believe he will be the nominee. Getting half of what I want is better than getting nothing or worse.

[Zorra]

26. Yes. But only because I have no other real choice except political suicide

I fucking despise republican fascist ideology to the very core of my being.

[Change Happens]

125. Amen....nt

[Zax2me]

27. Yes, of course -

He is going to win the nomination.
Which means he's going against one of those republicans we see throwing hats in the ring. Ring of clowns. There isn't a one on the lot that comes close to being an Obama.

[obxhead]

29. Other.

I may vote for him.

I will not donate to his campaign. Obama was the first candidate I have ever donated my hard earned pennies to. Will it change anything? Not likely, other than my own wallet.

I will not actively try to sway peoples opinions away from any candidate in favor of Obama. In 2008 i spoke endlessly to the less/non informed voters about the situations in America and how I felt Obama could be a voice to change them in a meaningful way for all of us. I see now that was a fruitless effort.

I will not locate friends and family who are not registered to vote and go through the hard work of convincing them how important it is to take part. In 2008 I got six people registered and drove them to their polling locations to vote. All told me they voted for Obama based on the months of information I had pumped into them. I am personally ashamed of that work now with the results of the Obama presidency and have spoken at length with them all about it.

I MAY vote for Obama, but I'm sure as hell not going to do anything more than that for him, like I did in 2008.

[Bravo Zulu]

34. The alternatives are unacceptable!

[Tarheel_Dem]

43. Chuckle. I participated in your poll for laughs. Do you think DU represents Democrats......

in the real world? No matter the result of your unscientific poll, Democrats will vote for the president. :rofl:

[hulka38]

44. The 2012 general election will be the Republican primary.

I do not support Republicans.

[robinlynne]

92. why do you say that? They dont stand a chance. they dont even want to run.

They're all waiting for 2016....

[hulka38]

104. The GE will be Republican light vs Republican.

[robinlynne]

122. agreed.

[bullimiami]

45. will there be a realistic, more liberal choice?

[saras]

47. It depends

If I have to vote for him to defeat a Republican then I'll vote for him.

If he's a shoo-in because there's no credible Republican, AND there's someone to the left whose values represent my own better than Obama does (which wouldn't be hard to do) then I'll likely cast a protest vote for the leftist candidate.

But since this nearly never happens in state or local elections, I'll probably be voting pretty much straight Democratic in other races.

[quiller4]

48. I'll caucus for him again, phone bank and this time I'll probably

be healthy enough to walk a few precincts. In 2008 I was dealing with Graves Disease in a big way and walking much was out of the question. Now I'm healthy again and able to put more physical energy into the campaign.

[FarLeftFist]

50. DID YOU KNOW that an ALERT option says this:

Expressing intent to not vote or vote third party, or justifying defeat of any Democratic general election candidate (unless a non-Democrat is most likely to defeat the conservative alternative).

[hulka38]

56. Why are discussion threads like this allowed

if their central theme is to elicit responses that are against the rules?

[cherokeeprogressive]

58. On the internets we call it "phishing"

It happens for the very reason one poster gleefully mentioned pizza parties.

And, it sucks.

[hulka38]

60. Is phishing a new and improved way of promoting open discussion?

[cherokeeprogressive]

64. Not really. At forums like DU it's a thinly veiled purity test.

"11. IP numbers are being recorded for a big pizza party."

[hulka38]

81. This is true.

[leftstreet]

59. lol Could it be successfully argued the New Dems are a third party?

:hide:

[slay]

63. Yeah people need to be careful in threads like this - saying NO will get your post alerted on

and probably deleted. i'm not saying that was the OP's intention - but that's why i said "probably not" instead of no. oh the hoops we have to jump through sometimes even here on DU. sigh..

[Name removed]

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[TheWraith]

57. Fuck yes. nt

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[graywarrior]

62. I just saw John Kerry speak in Newburyport, Ma

and he made an interesting point about people voting for or against someone based on one of two issues while the entire country is at SERIOUS risk from the inexperienced newbies in congress.

So we sit here dividing ourselves over things we think we are experts about while corporations are funding the next election. In the meantime, young uninformed and probably paid by Koch Brothers operatives were standing outside the town hall with photos of Obama wearing a Hitler mustache.

So go ahead, play the prima donna and only vote for Obama "depending" on whether he lives up to "your" ultimate dream. Waste time making it all about "you" instead of where the US stands in the world; third behind China and Germany in alternative energy and 12th in education. We're so impressed that "you're" different and so much more intelligent than we are.

[bluestate10]

100. You touched brilliantly on my bone with the far Left.

There is no perspective in that camp. There is no candidate that I have ever voted for that supported 100% of my political perspective. But when there was a greater threat, I supported the choice that was least damaging to the causes which I believed in while keeping some of my powder dry for another day. The far left wants every policy issue that is important to them approved NOW, with no regard to the reality that the political landscape does not support abrupt approval of those initiatives and likely won't during their lifetimes.

[graywarrior]

115. 2012 elections will become nerve wracking because we have to coddle the "sensitive" feelings of

certain voters. I distinctly remember Obama saying that WE had to be involved in this change. I guess a certain "we" do not think it means "them."

[bluestate10]

126. Fortunately Independents have awaken after being served a big one

by republicans. I have seen to power of Independents combining with centrists and rational liberals to re-elect a very good democrat by a wide margin. I awoke on election day in november thinking that our good democratic governor may be defeated. The Greens and many on the far left had publicly pledged to vote for even the republican instead of the democrat. One fucking issue that was not done the far left's way was their only sticking point. Election day came, rational democrats stayed with the democrat and many Independents joined them to re-elect the governor in a walk. What was looking like a long night coming into the election ended one hour after the polls closed. I checked results a few days later, Green and the far left had in fact voted for someone else, by Independents weighted in to smash them and help re-elect the governor. If not for Independents, my state could well be fighting a Scott Walker fight. I no longer trust the far left when important fights are to be fought. I have more faith in Independents educating themselves and behaving rationally to prevent electoral setbacks that would take two decades or more to undo.

[graywarrior]

131. Why is is that I don't think Independents are who they say they are?

They love to be wooed, in my opinion.

[Forkboy]

142. "we have to coddle the "sensitive" feelings of certain voters."

Respectfully, if you honestly think the Left has been coddled by this Admin is any way you're nuts. Seems to me he's more worried about the feelings of Republicans than ANYONE to his left. I don't give a wet fart if he coddles a fucking soul, left or right, just don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. He hasn't coddled fuck all on the Left.

[graywarrior]

146. I'll poke you, if you're not careful!

[Forkboy]

149. LOL

What is this "careful" thing you speak of? ;)

[graywarrior]

156. You knows I loves the Obama

:evilgrin:

[RagAss]

138. Once again...you have hit the nail on the head !

[graywarrior]

140. Not many here would agree with you as noted by their total avoidance of my post...lol

I guess that's what happens when you stay away for awhile. You become irrelevent.

[RagAss]

141. Not you graywarrior....we have an "ego" problem with some of our newest members here in DU.

They only reply to their own posts.

[graywarrior]

147. I've noticed.

[mmonk]

65. Define support.

[abq e streeter]

68. Pretty damn unenthusiastically, but yes....The alternative is , IMO, infinitely worse.

[Marrah_G]

69. oh....its that time again.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

70. Is this Democratic Underground? Isn't one of the major rules about supporting Democrats?

I'm baffled as to why the Mods would allow this thread which clearly opens the door to anti-Democratic Party sentiments and/or attacks on the president: a Democrat. Don't understand at all...

[Yo_Mama]

77. One might support another Democrat in the primary

and then vote for the president in the election.

Elections serve also to refocus politicians' attention upon the basics. It's easy to get out of touch with the electorate.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

135. The poll only provides Obama as a choice. No other Democratic choice. n/t

[Raine]

114. You can support ANY Democrat. What you CANNOT do is advocate the defeat

of the Democratic nominee. You don't have to support him but you CAN'T work within the DU to defeat him.

[mmonk]

117. The problem comes in who defines that.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

136. See post #77. Yes, you can support ANY candidate, but the poll doesn't provide an alternative

Democratic party candidate. It's solely about Obama, which again, leads me to think that this is yet another anti-Obama flamebait thread posing as innocuous.

[Wounded Bear]

73. I will not/can not vote for a Republican of any stripe right now....nt

:kick:

[JoePhilly]

74. Those voting NO should get busy on their 3rd party for 2016. nt

[bluestate10]

128. I agree. I am fed up with kissing ass to get people to reason through

the consequences of their votes, or lack thereof. If the no voters end up electing a republican they can kiss off my ever supporting a candidate that share their views, either financially or at the polls. This end is a sad one because even as a centrist, I have been a rock solid supporter of liberal candidates in all ways that support can be given. I behaved the way that I did because the alternative was clearly bad.

[Forkboy]

143. Obsessed much?

[Lugnut]

75. Absolutely.

I don't vote for right wing whackodoodles.

[lumberjack_jeff]

76. I would support any party challenger.

Obama needs a reality check.

Once he's nominated, I'll support him, but I want the most progressive possible Obama as a nominee.

[JVS]

82. Enter Evan Bayh.

[lumberjack_jeff]

88. Okay, almost any.

I wouldn't expect a primary challenge from the right.

[scarletwoman]

78. I will vote for Obama if he is the Dem nominee for the General Election.

I'm not going to agonize about it, because it's just not a big deal to me.

There are forces who work the levers of power in this country that are much bigger and more powerful than the one single person who sits in the Oval Office. Elections don't touch them.

I'd dearly love to see a complete progressive overhaul of the entire structure of our laws and institutions and government. However, if there's one thing that the Obama presidency has made most starkly evident, it's that such changes will not - can not - come from within the system.

So, I'll always vote, and I'll always vote for a Democrat when the only other choice is a Republican. I'll vote because it's a small act that requires little effort, not because I believe it's any sort of significant path to a better world. It's merely a way to hopefully forestall our collective devolution into an even worse world.

Electoral politics is not and should not be the end-all be-all of social activism.

sw

[Synicus Maximus]

79. It's not like there will be any other choice

[GreenStormCloud]

80. You didn't specify for primary or general election, so I didn't vote.

Primary - HELL NO! This latest bit about the War Powers Act not applying to our war in Libya is the final straw. I am sorry but that is acting like a dictator.

General - Grudgingly, Yes.

[Jim Lane]

83. A more informative poll would offer more nuanced choices.....

"Yes, enthusiastically" and "Yes, for lack of a better alternative" would be more accurate reflections of the schools of thought on DU.

Also, as others have noted, there's a difference between the primary and the general.

I'm voting "Yes" (with an implied "for lack of a better alternative") because I interpret the question as referring to the general. I don't expect to see a primary challenge from the left (Kucinich, Grayson, etc.), but if there is one, the challenger will have my support in the primary. Then, in the general, I'll vote for the Democrat (almost certainly Obama).

[Name removed]

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[MrSlayer]

86. The lesser of two evils....again.

Yep but as I voted for him last time, I will be voting against the Republicans this time. We're never going to have an actual "for the people" President or Congress. Too much money is involved for the People's interest to be the concern of lawmakers.

[Skittles]

87. yes, but only because of lack of real choice

[jimlup]

89. I will vote for Obama if Michigan is contested ...

Otherwise, I will likely vote 3rd party or abstain. But, yeah, if push comes to shove we have no choice. As someone on another site said today, he is the only thing standing between us and fascism.

[Shagbark Hickory]

90. Looks like you were right. nt

[robinlynne]

91. I will vote for him, if that is what you mean. I will not work for him, go door to door,

volunterr, donate anything, or get excited about his candidacy, as I used to do.

[bluestate10]

101. Oh well. I will contribute a lot more money and knock on a lot more doors. nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

93. yes.

[Ohio Joe]

95. Yes - nt

[DuaneBidoux]

98. This is not a political vote. It is a vote between reality and a bizarro universe from the right.

Let's face it, this is no longer about liberal and conservative, as much as liberals might want it to be. The right has been captured by pure lunatics and there is only one choice if you don't want lunatics: Barack Obama. He is barely a liberal, if not a down the center corporate president, but he IS still sane.

So the unpleasant choice is coming down to a vote for sanity (regardless of politics) in Obama and a vote for a bizarro alternate reality represented by Republicans: where dinosaurs were ridden by people, global warming is a myth, where government budgets (Ryan's) count on eventually reaching 3% of government spending relative to the GDP. In short, people who have literally long ago left the planet we all must continue to reside on (oh, and just to remind you, part of that alternative reality for these people is something called the rapture-where they actually think they will leave the planet).

Let's face it, Obama's got us by the balls. I am praying (metaphorically) that if he does get reelected and doesn't have to worry about getting reelected he will actually start doing some of the things I had hoped he would have already done.

[GSanon]

99. need more options: many would oppose him in the primary, but support him in the final. nt

.

[JustAmused]

102. .

Yes if he supports me

[OmahaBlueDog]

103. I do, have, and will support his reelection, but your question is too simplistic

What is "support"?

Will you vote for him?
Will you put a magnet/bumper sticker on your car?
Will you put up yard signs?
Will you give money?
Will you phone bank?
Will you knock on doors?


The problem I see for Obama at this moment is how many people will be motivated to get up off their butts to support him bersus how many will vote to get rid of him. The flip side is true for his opponents, I grant. But the real issue, as I see it, is that there is not the enthusiastic support that existed in the Fall of 2008.

[Hamlette]

105. It does depend on who he runs again in the general. If he runs against a Republican, I've voting

for him. :)

[Bluebear]

111. Oh yes, he's dreamy.

[Zorra]

121. Bluebear!

Don't be naughty.
;-)

[Raine]

112. Support ... of a sort. It will be unenthused, weak with no donations

and no volunteering and he is lucky to get even my totally unenthused weak support.

[joshcryer]

113. The breakdown of this poll pretty much affirms my suspicions.

[Mr. Jefferson]

118. Highly unlikely. He failed to deliver on the primary issue that matters to me.

UNCONSTITUTIONAL WARS

[Ikonoklast]

129. Guess you never listened to what the man said.

The fault is your own, then.

[Mr. Jefferson]

133. I heard him say this during the campaign...

The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

You are correct though, it was my fault for taking him at his word. You see, my mind told me he was lying, but my heart told me that he would would be less likely to start another war than would McCain.

[RagAss]

139. You mean the ones Bush started???

[mulsh]

123. yes absolutely

I never expected him to do everything I wanted done.

[mistertrickster]

124. Good idea. Maybe some QUANTITATIVE evidence will tamp down

some of the "why does everybody hate Obama here?" whining . . .

Assuming people looking to be victims can be persuaded by evidence.

[Iggo]

127. I'll vote for him in the General Election. (n/t)

[FLPanhandle]

130. 4:1 so far in favor of supporting Obama

That's refreshing. The minority 20% sure are noisy though.

[Hawkowl]

157. Can he afford to lose 20%?

The question is, can he afford to lose 20%? Will he more than make up for this with gains in Rethuglicans and "independents"? Obviously his calculation is that he will.

I think he will get re-elected barring a legitimate Rethuglican challenger. Personally, I will vote to the left of Obama for the presidency and vote straight ticket Dem for all others.

[Vinca]

132. Hmmm. Obama or Pizza Guy. Obama or Palin. Obama or Bachmann.

Not the hardest of decisions.

[mistertrickster]

134. I'll support him, but I won't campaign for him or send him money.

He apparently prefers millions from big corps to millions from "dirty hippies."

Okay, we dirty leftists hear you . . . loud and clear.

[RagAss]

137. Of course I will !

[Forkboy]

144. I don't even know what I'm doing this weekend yet.

[ergot]

145. Of course, assuming he gets the Democratic nomination...but

I won't put out any effort for him in the primaries. I like the guy personally, a lot...but I'm not all that thrilled with his job performance so far.

[Mira]

148. This is a trick question - right? I have the right to disagree with him on many

things, and to love him on others. And I do not have the right to vote for any of the slimey creatures crawling out of the pond of puke.

[Lucian]

151. You mean get out and campaign for him...

donating my time to phone banks, donating money? If that's the case, then no.

But I will vote for him. That's as far as my support will go for him.

[a kennedy]

155. ah, yeah......

GOBAMA, GOBAMA, GOBAMA. :fistbump: :patriot:

[hifiguy]

158. Yes. While holding my nose all the while I do so.

What choice is there? Though the temptation to write in Bernie Sanders is great indeed.

[strawberryfield]

159. We are in Reagan's 8th tern

Bill Clinton sold the left on the idea that he was the only thing that stood in the path of a complete Fascist take over. but the trade off was that he had to be a little bit Fascist himself. That is how we ended up with NAFTA and other BS. Obama is trying to follow the same strategy. We need Democrats that will put the country before corporate greed. I don't think we should give away our unconditional support before we are sure that Obama really cares about the same things we do. We can always compromise with political expediency later.