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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:18 PM
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A "trip" down memory lane. 1950's housewife volunteers to take LSD
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:32 PM
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1. I normally wouldn't bother clicking or taking the time to watch, but that was really worthwhile.
So thank you. Not only was that woman a beautiful person and like so many beautiful people I tripped with many, many years ago, but I felt the British gentleman, who spoke afterward about the nature of the drug and who hints at the undercurrent of the realities of being one organism instead of, as he put it, "being on islands and shouting across to others"...

That was great.

I'm not sure if others would get as much out of it as I did, but thanks for posting that.

:thumbsup:

PB
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:39 PM
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3. +1000 Well put! n/t
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:35 PM
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2. I looked up Dr. Sidney Cohen on Erowid
That was Nov. 10, 1955, and Betty Eisner was the subject.

http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/cohen_sidney/cohen_sidney.shtml


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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:04 PM
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5. Thanks for the info.
I happened to find this by accident and didn't know anything about the subjects in the clip. :thumbsup:

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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:48 AM
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17. I don't think the woman in this video is Betty Eisner
it doesn't look anything like this picture of her http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/eisner_betty/eisner_betty.shtml
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:43 PM
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4. "This is reality"
Edited on Fri May-20-11 10:43 PM by napoleon_in_rags
Her best words in the whole thing. Ah, memories. I remember laying on my back sometime in the 90s watching the ceiling breath, listening to this. Wow.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:16 PM
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6. Wow is right,when she felt sorry for him that was powerful. nt
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:15 AM
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11. Totally! And her sorrow that he couldn't see, and she couldn't explain it.
That amazing feeling. My father read "The Old Man and the Sea" by Hemingway to me as a child. I thought it was sad, this story of an old man with nothing who catches a fish too big for his boat and returns to shore, to society, with only a skeleton as its flesh was eaten away by sharks. Reflecting on the story later, I understood that this is really the story of everybody who has experienced that kind of incredible inspiration, but has found themselves unable to communicate it to society. We are all left with our own little contradictory babble, to try to send messages in smoke to those other isolated islands. But it cannot be communicated, those understand do so because they already understood.

Like the sacred song that someone sings through you
Like the flesh so warm that the thorn sticks into
Like the dream you know one day will come to life

Like the echoes of your childhood laughter, ever after
Like the first time love urged you to take it's guidance, in silence
Like your heartbeat when you realize you're dying, but you're trying
Like the way you cry for a happy ending, ending

I know.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:26 PM
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7. Nice. This is what I used to listen to while staring at the ceiling
during various LSD and DXM trips - very appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ku-ma1dVI8



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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:25 AM
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12. "All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be"
Edited on Sat May-21-11 12:25 AM by napoleon_in_rags
When I am driving around in my car and this song comes on the radio, that one line has that amazing effect of cutting through the fog of all the mundane nonsense of my life and putting me back in that state: That awareness of the fundamental realities, the basic mysteries of my own existence. Its uncomfortable as all hell, like when you are just starting on a trip, before the wave breaks. It gives me that feeling of being alien to my own skin, and asking that haunting question "who am I?" that I used to ask back then.

The funny thing is that so many years later, with all my sobriety, I realize I have mostly succeeded at putting all these deep questions out of my mind, not answering them at all. It makes me wonder what the world would be like if we really sat down as a society, drugs aside, and committed ourselves to answering these fundamental questions instead of fixating on nonsense.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:09 AM
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14. "who am i"
I am a Walrus. :evilgrin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyA-kGFXcuQ

yeah it's neat exploring the mysteries of life - rather than you know - wasting it watching American Idol or listening to crap about the terminator's love child.

my hard cord drugs days are over as well - not that i would put those days down - i think they were vital in helping me question the reality that was being forced upon us by The Powers That Be.

music and comedy are good too. pink floyd for music and bill hicks for comedy are among the best imo. cheers. :toast:
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:16 AM
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15. "yeah it's neat exploring the mysteries of life"
Neat? Its hard as hell, that's why people don't do it. We are all American Idol morans in our own way, we are all avoidant assholes.

cheers. :toast:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:36 AM
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16. It can be hard
but doesn't have to be. people bring all kinds of unnecessary complications into their lives. it can be load of fun. i'm not necessarily looking for answers - maybe that's why it's not hard for me - i'm more of an observer. :)

then again i've done so much LSD in my lifetime that it comes pretty natural. i don't have "the fear" that many people seem to have when pondering deep questions and stepping outside "the box". after seeing what is possible, i can't just go back to plain old normal avoidant life. even though i may seem incredibly lazy - i'm actually pondering the mysteries of life.... sometimes. :evilgrin:

sure there's a price to pay - i'm poor as hell - but happier than most people i know. :)

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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 07:30 PM
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24. Man, I miss people like you.
As a young kid I remember running into these older guys with the same outlook. I always told myself when I was that old (as I am now) I wanted to be one of them. There's just something really cool to me about keeping that awareness, that this trip called life is short and you really just have to enjoy it as you can. There's something about not getting lost in the game.

But that was almost 20 years ago, in coffee shops in Boulder and Denver. (Back when people used to talk at coffee shops instead of interacting exclusively with their WIFI enabled devices.) Things are different now, and its harder than ever to find your place as the 'poor as hell' philosophical guy. But I just want to tell you, it matters. It matters what we put out in this world, and somehow I feel that with all the catastrophic materialist consumerism, its those people like you who actually have happiness without it that really have something important to teach. So yes, right on!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:26 PM
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8. Wanna watch without the bad stretching?
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:27 PM
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9. Thanks for that, it was interesting to watch. But it made me
miss the days when I felt that same way.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:04 AM
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10. If I knew where I could
Edited on Sat May-21-11 12:05 AM by Zorra
get some really good clean acid, I believe I would do just that right now.

It's been awhile, actually it's hard to believe it's been this long.

That video was so real. It made me feel like I was trippin' with her, right down to that taste you get in your mouth.

Thanks, progressoid, that really was a trip down memory lane. sigh...
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 05:02 PM
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23. mmmm acid taste
i was lucky to get dosed by some hippies in santa cruz last year.
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mountainlion55 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:31 AM
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13. Brings back good memories
Orange sunshine, Purple micro-dot good mescaline ah man it was fun. Excellent video. :smoke:
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 03:19 AM
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18. Interesting! It's an innocent pre-hippie culture description of the LSD experience.
Reminds me how universal the experience is, and how philosophical and meta it can be; eg the way she re-looks at the meaning of the term "inside" , in a way she may not have since she was a child.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:40 AM
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19. Here's an interesting article about Cary Grant.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:30 AM
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21. I remember Carrie Fisher talking about Cary Grant/LSD on Letterman.
When Carrie Fisher's mom got worried about her teenage daughter's LSD use, she did what any concerned parent might do.

"She had Cary Grant call me about my acid problem," Fisher told David Letterman on his show Tuesday night. "While I was shooting it and stuff. I tell my father the story and my father's a little vague having shot speed 13 years. It's a family tradition."

Grant's involvement with Fisher's drug problem didn't end there. Fisher's dad ending up seeing him at Grace Kelly's funeral and at a loss for what to say, asked him to call his daughter again. He did. The reason Grant was the family acid expert? He once did it under doctor's supervision.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/carrie-fisher-cary-grant_n_370380.html

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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:42 AM
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20. Are You Experienced---Have you ever been experienced
Well I am----Jimi
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 09:56 AM
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22. "Everything would be as one if you weren't here."
Very interesting.
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 07:45 PM
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25. Interesting thanks for posting.
nt
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