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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:45 PM
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Raise the fucking tax rate
Rebuild the fucking infrastructure and industrial base

Raise the fucking national wage average to a livable level

Stop privatizing every fucking thing

Pursue Peace, instead of fucking War

Go fucking Green



Why is any of this so fucking hard?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:47 PM
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1. Because the wealthy and power elite are running the show in this country
Until they are brought under control, none of the things you mention will come to pass.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:51 PM
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4. And SCOTUS wanted to make sure that would never happen, hence
Citizens United. None on the take want to wreck the unbridled gravy train.

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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:54 PM
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5. Isn't that the truth. nt
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:47 PM
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2. I know...it shouldn't be hard to figure this out.
I think the sad answer is that the people that can make this happen are bought and paid for by people who want the opposite to happen.


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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:49 PM
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3. 'Cause it's too simple and would work! There's more money for the
profiteers/MIC and greedy fat capitalists in stupid decisions and stupid solutions.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:57 PM
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6. Green Jobs NOW, Motherfuckers!
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:02 PM
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7. But low tax rates on the rich help create jobs.
Just at look at how much better off the country is now than it was under Clinton.

:sarcasm:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:49 AM
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8. I agree with you
makes you wonder why Dems can't - or won't - clearly explain this.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:28 AM
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9. Raise taxes on the rich or everybody?
Would you support a VAT to pay for those things?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:37 AM
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10. VAT is regressive, so only if its adoption were tied to solid progressive policies as in
Europe. The VAT, in isolation, would not be a progressive way to raise taxes.

If European-style progressive policies (like effective national health care, a strong social safety net, enhanced infrastructure and empowered unions) were part of the deal, the middle class would be better off. Plus the adoption of a VAT (tied to progressive legislation) would create pressure to raise taxes (income, estate, capital gains, etc.) on the rich to "share the pain" of funding these progressive policies. That's the way it has worked in other developed societies.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:13 PM
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16. I'm not a fan of regressive taxes. I prefer everyone over in the neighborhood of
25k single and 43.5 couples get an "increase" (this includes me, thank God!) by getting rid of the Bush/Obama tax cuts and we tax capital gains over 30Kish at about 25% hard and across the board. We could adjust my number but that capital gains needs to go up while still being a significant advantage (but no longer a huge leap) over regular income to reward investment.

I can't disagree that money working for you is and should be acknowledged as a night and day systemic reward but at least some movement is absolutely the right thing to do. That is where the big money is, from folks that can spare it and no longer have any concern about investing in America.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 09:57 PM
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18. With the way people "invest" now, I'm for leaving the capital gains rate where it is
The reason is that very few people actually pay the "capital gains tax" rate. That is on investments sold after being held for at least a year. (There's also a super-long-term rate that's even lower, on investments held at least five years.) 70 percent of all stock trading is "high frequency" trading, which is day trading taken to extremes: if you hold a position for one minute you're probably screwed. Some of these guys are flipping stocks in 15 seconds or less--MASSIVE amounts of stock.

There is a very simple way to deal with this problem: just set the tax on gains from securities held less than an hour to 70 percent.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 11:38 AM
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11. Fucking aye
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:32 PM
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12. Because the fucking corporations are in charge
Not people
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:35 PM
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13. No thank you...I want my fucking to be tax free!
Oh wait, yeah, I do agree with you!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:48 PM
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14. Amen, amen, amen!
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:49 PM
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15. K&R - nt
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 09:41 PM
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17. I didn't even know there was a tax on that!
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 09:58 PM
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19. "Why is any of this so fucking hard?" Because that is a progressive agenda
and we don't have enough progressive politicians or politicians who listen to our progressive population who in majority want those things.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:48 PM
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20. Wh ostill believes that big biz doesn't run this country? any takers?
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