Anybody else think that maybe, just maybe, the American people are starting to come to their senses?

[Brigid]

After a mini-tsunami of support for rightwingers last November, and three decades of wallowing in right-wing ideology, we have labor unrest in many states, recall efforts on many of the aforementioned pols who were elected just six months ago, and Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump have abandoned their presidential campaigns. Could change for the better be in the making?

[Bucky]

1. Our senses, as a nation, kind of come and go. Next year there'll be a new snakeoil salesman.

We always seem to pull our shit together at the last minute. The moral arc of the universe is long and tiresome.

[RKP5637]

3. Is that ever true! "The moral arc of the universe is long and tiresome." I might

also add frustrating, mind boggling and has bouts of delusion and ignorance.

[Bucky]

9. Fuckin' universe!

Who does it think it is? ;)

[RKP5637]

17. LOL! Yep, it sure has some nerve!!!

:)

[RKP5637]

2. I'm more hopeful now than I was.

[Warpy]

4. I've been waiting for people to come to their senses since Nixon was voted in

because too many non thinking idiots hated hippies.

I've about given up.

[RKP5637]

18. My question is where did all the 60's hippies go? We thought a new

world was coming and all that spirit just evaporated for the most part. Sounds like a good title for a song, "where did all the 60's hippies go?"

[lib2DaBone]

22. The Hippies are done... 50 years of activism is enough...

.. they have turned over the torch to the young... who are busy texting and tweeting and watching "Snookie" on the Tele.

Edited: to change 40 years of activism to 50 years

[RKP5637]

23. Yeah, somehow all the generational knowledge got lost. I feel like history is

repeating all over again.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. It is because Muricans are a forwards looking nation

and don't care for that old stuff... and sadly I am damn serious.

[RKP5637]

43. I really feel like I'm living in a non-ending Twilight Zone episode, or maybe I'm

just having a bad dream and will wake up. Whatever, it's just one endless WTF. Here, I'm surrounded by "The Stepford Wives."

[eilen]

45. I wonder who made the programming decsisions

who sits behind the desks at the TV networks. Oh yeah, babyboomers aka former hippies.

[Warpy]

26. I know quite a few of us

and we got jobs and raised our families and we never really lost the spirit, although we did see it crushed to death in too many people who became burnouts and died young.

[RKP5637]

27. Yea!

:toast: :yourock:

[morningglory]

29. The hippies have some really cool grandchildren!

Our children don't give a hoot what color/sexuality/religion a person is. Our grandchildren reeeeeeeeally don't give a hoot. I am almost 65 years old, so please overlook it if I have been politically incorrect in any of my descriptions.

[RKP5637]

31. +1000 +++ n/t

[elana i am]

32. my hippie 'rents and all their hippie siblings grew up to be republicans.

and the one that wasn't a hippie was a goldwater republican who became a democrat later in life. funny how that works.

[RKP5637]

36. It is, isn't it. Peoples priorities and ideals sometimes change a lot. Sometimes so

much the same person wouldn't have had anything to do with their former self.

[yesphan]

46. Then they

weren't really hippies. "Real" hippies were actually kind of rare.

[Youth Uprising]

33. They're all working for Wall Street...

[RKP5637]

35. Yeah, I bet they're a few of them there that discovered big money and went for it! Funny how

coming into money changes ones ideals and priorities in life.

[Wind Dancer]

41. Some of us are still around. n/t

[RKP5637]

47. Yea!

:) :yourock:

[Snoutport]

5. i think so...but it might be a sllllloooooowwwwwww change

I think attacking teachers has started to turn people against the right...at least in part.

[Drew Richards]

6. NO not yet at all

Not when a state Supreme court can declare the fourth amendment unconstitutional and police can break into your home with impunity.

And the populous doesn't riot and ride these judges out of the state on a rail tar and feathered.

[zappaman]

7. Who cares?

American Idol is on!

[WinkyDink]

8. Nope.

[seabeyond]

10. i saw TWO ron paul stickers today. never saw any in this area, and two today.

wanted to ask them if they were ready for an end to SS and medicare

[BillyJack]

14. So? TPTB have a LOT of money ...... it's nothing for them to buy some

bumper stickers and get a few under-informed people whipped up into a frenzy and then slap those stickers on their cars and drive around.

I believe it's really rather *telling* that you never saw this until recently.

Do you think there are capricious people in your area? Or are they now being *led by some entity* of some sort?

:think:

[seabeyond]

15. your post is too ..... odd. i can understand the repugs in my area not being happy

with the repugs. i can understand why the repugs in my area would chose ron paul. for me to see the first two in one day may be significant and will be interesting just showing the messed up party the repug is in.

i am in panhandle of texas. this is the repug feasting ground. and not looking good for them. time will tell.

[BillyJack]

19. Please explain what's 'odd' about my post? eom

[seabeyond]

24. i cant really get a grasp with your outrage or exactly what you are pointing your finger at me for.

why i chose odd

i think you threw a fit over nothing making assumptions.

[BillyJack]

25. Uhm, I didn't "outrage" and I wasn't "pointing a finger at you".....

....I merely responded to a post (which happened to be yours).

Peace. :-) (and g'nite)

edited to add: (and g'nite)

[seabeyond]

28. well, see? hence the odd. i dont get what it was about. obviously.

and

nite

[leftstreet]

11. Voters 'came to their senses' in 2006 & 2008. Maybe they're still waiting for change?

:shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

12. Yep.....change takes a while......

so perhaps part of the "senses" they need to come to is that
considering the fucked up media, business and the GOP hand in hand
trying to destroy any progress made, and yeah....could take a while longer
than folks had counted on.

[lunasun]

13. no

[defendandprotect]

16. American public understands what's going on -- that's why they stayed home in '10 ....

for one --

What I think they are waking up to is the complete betrayal of democracy and the

nation as the doors are closed to government by corporate fascism and the buying of

our government !!

[RKP5637]

20. The R's won't rest 'till Democracy is completely dead and rigus mortus has set in together

with total corporate fascism and the end of government. They are the real threat to this country, not those we chase with wars.

[postulater]

21. nope, not a chance.

[provis99]

34. the America people are beyond hope.

Im just enjoying my smug sense of I Told You So as the American people get the republican screwing they voted for.

[TransitJohn]

37. It won't matter.

Say they have: what's the most likely outcome? They vote back in Obama, and give the House back to the Dems. We all saw how lovely that went last time with a huge mandate.

[socialist_n_TN]

38. I think that the majority of people HAVE awakened...........

Look at the majorities in the polls for leftish positions. The problem is that the political system no longer pays attention to the majority of the people. I just hope that people wake up to this lack of attention to the majority now.

[white_wolf]

40. Has the political system ever paid attention without being forced?

Let's face it, our was co-opted by the elite bourgeoisie forces not too long after the revolution, The only way it is ever willing to grant reforms is when it is threatened with revolution.

[socialist_n_TN]

42. On point my friend, on point.........

Hence the "I hope they wake up to the fact that the political system doesn't pay attention to the majority" part of my post.

That's the part of "waking up" that's so difficult for most people. To see that the political/electoral system doesn't CARE about the majority is something that most people don't EVER want to face. PERIOD. And then even if they do face this fact, half or more of them just give up rather than trying to fight back. So there are SEVERAL levels of "waking up" that have to be accomplished before we'll be able to change the system to one that's responsive to the majority and not money.

You even see it here and this is a place that's more left leaning than most. How many posters try to keep people from looking at extra electoral remedies?

[bermudat]

39. Nah.

[cali]

44. No. Not for a minute.

[moondust]

48. Don't count on it.

Going into Election 2000 I thought surely U.S. voters had come to their senses after years of relative peace and broad-based prosperity--and REAL fiscal responsibility. Wrong. And Election 2004 confirmed how wrong I was. Going into Midterms 2010 I thought surely U.S. voters had not forgotten what a mess Republicans had made during eight years of Bush and Cheney. Wrong again.

[jillan]

49. What makes me hopeful is that I recently read that Limbo's numbers are down.

If just a few people start turning off the crazies and the hate talk, maybe people are waking up.