Strauss-Kahn to Be Jailed at New York’s Rikers Island in Sex-Assault Probe

[formercia]

By Karen Freifeld - May 16, 2011 4:37 PM ET Mon May 16 20:37:56 GMT 2011


Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), is arraigned in Manhattan criminal court in New York on Monday, May 16, 2011. Photographer: Richard Drew/Pool via Bloomberg
International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, accused of sexually assaulting and attempting to rape a hotel housekeeper, will be sent to New York City’s Rikers Island jail complex after a judge ordered him held without bail.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-16/strauss-kahn-to-be-jailed-at-new-york-s-rikers-island-in-sex-assault-probe.html

[Taverner]

1. Good. He (and the IMF) needs to learn they don't OWN US

[formercia]

3. The food will be the least of his problems

Even if he gets acquitted on the charges, the least he will get is a severe case of PTSD.

[Taverner]

7. Food? Que?

[formercia]

10. Not exactly Cordon Bleu.

http://rikersisland.info/meals.php

It will take a bit of adjustment.

Garcon!!

[Taverner]

12. Ahhh. Why did they send him there?

I thought these guys usually got the Club Fed treatment?

Not that I'm against it - but is Holder just being 'tough on crime' across the board?

[blondeatlast]

16. I don't think they are Federal charges.

His hearing was in a NYC court.

[jberryhill]

34. It's not a federal prosecution

[alcibiades_mystery]

65. Rikers Island is the "county jail" for New York City

though there are certainly other jails located in the specific boroughs. Generally, if you're awaiting trial, you are se4nt to Riker's Island (in the same way somebody awaiting trial in Los Angeles would be sent to the LA County Jail).

That said, Riker's Island perhaps has the reputation that it had in the 1970's and 1980's, when it was a very, very dangerous place to spend your time. It has become considerably safer (as has New York City in general), though it's still jail, after all.

[Drale]

2. The Raft,

Thats where they put evil masks. Maybe he'll get drafted the the Thunderbolts and die in the line of duty. ./getshisgeekon

[seabeyond]

4. good. cant give hiim to france. france has already proven they protect rapists. nt

[blondeatlast]

5. From the Sofitel to Rikers. That's what I call culture shock--

:wow:

[EFerrari]

6. Who did this guy cross?

[seabeyond]

8. really? nt

[madokie]

9. It sounds like a couple of ladies

That don't put up with sexist pigs advances.

[WinkyDink]

14. "Advances" doesn't quite cover the assault charge(s).

[madokie]

17. Surely you get my gist though

[EFerrari]

21. Sure. But it also seems like he's getting tagged

very hard when men like him usually don't.

[Renew Deal]

24. I think he got busted before anyone realized who he was.

[EFerrari]

25. They knew he was "somebody" because he was in that suite, though. n/t

[madokie]

26. You're not going to tell me you've sided with the pig on this are you?

sure sounds that way to me

[EFerrari]

28. Well, listen better. I said men like him don't get busted very often.

How the hell is that siding with him?

[madokie]

31. Listen better is all you have to tell me. I read and comprehend pretty damn good actually

Its my writing I have problems with.
They knew he was "somebody" because he was in that suite, though.

Being somebody does not a pig make. I don't believe for a minute that these girls are just pulling shit out of thin air. As the captain once told me when I was in the navy and was caught off base and when I went to explain the why, I was met with you are guilty or you wouldn't be here. That argument you gave me, to me, doesn't hold water.
Peace and have a good day :hi:

I go now and leave you alone

[JuniperLea]

63. Spot on, madokie...

If this pig were innocent, or being framed, his lame excuses wouldn't change. When the story changes, the story teller is lying his/her ass off... that's all you really need to know.

After years of creating this image of a sexual predator for himself, there's little chance this is a set up, a framing, or any of that crap.

It's really amazing watching people here on DU defend a predator like that. :crazy:

There will be no crow eaten when this all comes to light and the defenders are shown to be :crazy:

[EFerrari]

68. It's really amazing watching people leap to conclusions

because of their basic lack of reading comprehension. Oh wait, it isn't.

[EFerrari]

67. I gave you no argument. For the third time, men of his class

don't get busted very often even when they should. Their word is taken over the women they prey on.

Good grief.

[Renew Deal]

27. This is NY

There's a lot of people in expensive suites that aren't anybody. Many are just business travelers. I also doubt that the cops knew how much that room was. If fact, there is still dispute over the value of that room. Initially it was $3,000. Then I saw $800. Then I saw $570. :shrug:

[blondeatlast]

55. Sofitel 350 sq ft studio STARTS at $1200 per night in Manhattan.

http://www.sofitel.com/gb/booking/rates.shtml?packId=37623867466

but yeah, a person staying in a $1200 per night room in Manhattan is not going to stand out any more than I will when I go Home Depot.

[jberryhill]

56. Retail rate for non-preferred guests

[blondeatlast]

58. True, but staying at a fancy hotel in Manhattan isn't going to "tip off"

the NYPD that he's somebody "special." On any given day, I'm pretty certain the Sofital on the Island has a pretty high occupancy rate (I used to book travel for high end business folk).

[jberryhill]

60. Absolutely

In fact there are all sorts of shady characters with a lot of money

[madokie]

74. I'd be surprised if there weren't more shady characters with a lot of money

as good honest people. Lots of money doesn't come easy

[EFerrari]

69. Hmm. That isn't my experience with class/income dispartity at all.

For example, when Doug had meltdowns in Santa Monica and raised his voice, the Santa Monica PD used to come to my door and ask me if I was all right. Had the same thing happened in L.A., an LAPD SWAT team would have likely busted the door down and shot somebody. Same here in Silicon Valley with Los Altos Hills vs. San Jose or in San Francisco, Nob Hill vs. the Mission. When we lived in Glen Park, I used to tell Doug, you can't freak out in this neighborhood or you'll wind up in the slammer. Not that it helped. lol

On the other hand, that's here and not NYC.

[alcibiades_mystery]

66. If you are charged with a crime and denied bail in New York City, you go to Rikers to await trial

There is no other option.

[joshcryer]

73. Good. Let's call for more of the same rather than run to his defense.

[blondeatlast]

11. My guess would be the judge. They don't all hang with millionaires. nt

[Odin2005]

20. The women he raped, that's who.

[Renew Deal]

23. Are you saying that this entire thing is fabricated?

[reorg]

29. possible

There have been two very high profile rape cases in Germany in the last years. The accused were very highly popular "TV personalities" and "rich". The allegations were more serious than in this case, but after months of being daily slammed in the yellow press, the first one was completely exonerated. Didn't help much with regard to his career, as a TV moderator he is finished. The other trial is still ongoing (lasting many months already) but it very much looks like it will have the same result.

Yes, it happens that rape allegations are completely made up. Escpecially if you can destroy a person's life even if your allegations are finally proven to be untrue. That's why I find the rush to condemn everyone who is accused of something very disturbing.

[seabeyond]

30. from lawyers. last nite he had alibi, not there. this morning. she consented. nt

[reorg]

32. not true

[seabeyond]

33. what is not true. i saw article last night about time and couldnt be there

to an article this morning saying it was consent. what is not true

[jberryhill]

35. Name the person who said these things /nt

[msanthrope]

37. The story changed overnight--

Rape Alibi--

http://www.businessinsider.com/dsk-alibi-2011-5?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=bi

now it's consensual--

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN#ixzz1McUysn9u

[seabeyond]

38. thank you. i will keep your post at the ready. i am sure it will be needed. nt

[jberryhill]

39. Once more, with feeling - Name the person who said these things

I'll wait.

[seabeyond]

40. ahhh, i see. take lawyers story to the bank, but this doesnt work for ya. got it.

now i understand

[jberryhill]

42. English please?

Name any identified lawyer engaged in the case who has told any story whatsoever.

[msanthrope]

43. The Defense Attorney, Ben Brafman.

"The evidence, we believe, will not be consistent with a forcible encounter," said Ben Brafman, the high-powered lawyer of IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, at the suspect's sensational arraignment in a packed criminal courtroom.

A source close to the defense later told The Post, "There may well have been consent."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN#ixzz1McWBW9ju

Not that this simply did not happen....but that it wasn't 'forcible.' Even discounting the later unamed source, I don't think he's claiming there wasn't contact.

Which tells me there's a possibility of DNA that DSK cannot otherwise explain.

[jberryhill]

46. Brafman's statement is vague

...and it is deliberately vague.

The "he said this and then he said that" thing only comes from the unsourced statements. That's all I was observing.

That observation, apparently, qualifies me as some kind of "agenda pusher".

[msanthrope]

48. Oh, I don't think you are an agenda pusher---and you are correct on

lots of the sourcing--I think, with the security footage, though, if they've got DNA, he's down to claiming consent.

[jberryhill]

57. Depends on where the DNA came from

If you clean my room, you'll have my DNA on you somewhere.

Humans shed cells like storms shed snowflakes.

[LanternWaste]

53. That you consistently add qualifiers...

"That observation, apparently, qualifies me as some kind of "agenda pusher"..."

That you consistently add post-qualifiers to every answer you're given may label you as that... :shrug:

[jberryhill]

54. I'm just trying to follow the story

Stuff gets posted as if he said it or his lawyers said it, when it could be the doorman at the building where the firm is.

I was just trying to figure out if someone had read something I hadn't when they say things like "his lawyers have changed the story" or "he changed his story".

My question was simply along the lines of "Who changed what story?" If one un-named source conflicts with another un-named source, that's just typical of reporting on a developing story, and not an indication that any individual changed any story.

Given that the maid reported the incident at the time and in distress from it, IMHO if he has a story, it better be a good one.

[reorg]

44. your two (identical) links go to the exact same story

so what has changed, again?

http://www.businessinsider.com/dsk-alibi-2011-5?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=bi

http://www.businessinsider.com/dsk-alibi-2011-5?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=bi

[msanthrope]

45. Fixed the link--

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/seduced_and_she_said_oui_oui_Oj0Z4K8iFIheZa4gvTBUWN#ixzz1McUysn9u

[reorg]

49. NYP, nuff said

cites an anonymous source "close to the defense" as saying there "may well have been consent" whereas another person, the defense lawyer, says there was no "forcible encounter". Is that a contradiction?

Yesterday, the story was about the time the incident allegedly happened. The police first said it was 13 hours, but at that time he had already checked out and had dinner. So, the police changed their story and said the incident might have taken place earlier. But I guess that's the fault of the lawyers.

[msanthrope]

47. Fixed, thank you--

[reorg]

41. there have been contradictory reports with changing details on just about everything

Hard to tell what actually happened or who says what.

[msanthrope]

51. Not difficult at all if you follow the evidence given at the arraignment....

They have him, on camera, leaving the hotel at 12:28. He doesn't get to the lunch with his daughter until 12:45 at the earliest. The assault happened at 12.

The prosecutor has a witness id, and possible DNA.

[reorg]

52. these and other details have changed

within a day or two, as I said. I wouldn't read too much into this, the journos are eager to get their stories out. And who knows how long it will be before another juicy subject turns up to offer distraction from the real news.

[Dreamer Tatum]

50. He crossed the rights of a woman not to be sexually assaulted, Beth.

Again - just assume he's a Republican. That will fix you right up.

[EFerrari]

70. Of course he did. But guys like him don't get nailed very often

which is one reason women don't report as much as they need to. They expect nothing to happen and too often, they're right.

Whatever.

[Blue_Tires]

64. That was my question as well...

Not to make light of the charges, but there have been less powerful men accused of worse things against women or minors who have easily lawyered up, slandered the victim's reputation, spun the story into total distortion, had the investigation blocked or slowed to a crawl, had high-profile cronies make public defenses in the media, etc etc...

I'm just curious to know how he became such an easy "get" -- 99 percent of people with his status don't even see a courtroom, much less Rikers...

[EFerrari]

71. Exactly. Well, I'm glad for the lady that she is being taken seriously.

And I guess we'll find out about the rest.

[formercia]

72. Judge Judy?

Oy!

[WinkyDink]

13. "The maid there is Bubba, mon ami," cracked Det. Briscoe.

[blondeatlast]

15. Damn, too bad Ohrbach isn't around for the inevitable L&O take.

I can sooo picture him...

[LisaL]

19. I presume Law and Order SVU will love this story line.

[riverwalker]

18. here are the charges

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55574679/NY-Criminal-Court-Filing-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn

[Renew Deal]

22. He's probably the richest guy in the building.

[jberryhill]

36. Naw... the guards are public employees who, as we know, are fabulously overcompensated /nt

[blondeatlast]

59. No doubt; $50K a year is a sweet deal on Manhattan.

(Do I really need the drippy, red thing?)

[jberryhill]

61. Depends on what drippy red thing you had in mind....

Of course, that's what DSK said...

[blondeatlast]

62. Ew. Need brain bleach, nt