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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:05 AM
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How Can No One Know Whether There's Concrete Under Fukushima Reactor Vessels?
Seems to me this should be known by now.

And it's reported the fuel rod in one reactor did melt down.

But no one in Japanese press core asks whether there is concrete underneath?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:06 AM
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1. One reactor?
They're letting us down gently.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:33 AM
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9. That has been the pattern.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:17 AM
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2. TEPCO doesn't get asked many of the tough questions because it owns many of the reporters.(LINK)
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 10:18 AM
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6. Have you seen who is on the board of Tepco?
All Japanese banksters and insurance company CEOs etc.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:28 AM
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3. Check this video rant out from a Frenchman living in Tokyo after confirmation of full meltdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x582893

He discusses the lies coming from Tepco, finally though it is known there is a full meltdown
and that there is no concrete underneath.

This is why they were considering putting concrete underneath.

HOWEVER, that was before they learned reactor #1 is in full meltdown..
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 10:05 AM
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4. Oh, c'mon, you didn't think they were telling the truth about this?
They have lied from day one, it is no wonder these weasels that knew or should have known, they were warned, that this place was a disaster waiting to happen?

Earthquake Start A Global Extinction Event?


May 9, 2011
By Tom Burnett

Those of you who have been following me at HawaiiNewsDaily or on my blog may not have been thrilled with my initial assessments back in March – and ongoing – that Fukushima isn’t going away.

The reactors can NEVER be placed in ‘cold shutdown‘ because the cores are partially melted together. We are talking about hundreds of tons of fissile material inside reinforced concrete containment vessels. The containment vessels are cracked. They are releasing radiation. Fission excursions are still occurring and no one can go inside those containments for hundreds of years – even if they could get to the fuel.

They continue to pour water on them and drain it off into the ocean because there is nothing else they can do. If they stop pumping water, the genie comes out. If they keep pumping water, it has to go somewhere and that somewhere is the ocean. It is still a stop gap. Those reactor cores cannot be put into ‘cold shutdown’ or dismantled or entombed. Ever.

They cannot treat as much radioactive water as they have to keep pumping in. No one can. So the radiation is going to come across the Pacific and impact the US and, certainly, Hawaii. Yes, I read that they are going to start treating it or storing it, but the task is impossible. Reactor cores have to be maintained in a ‘clean room’ environment or the water picks up particles – which then become radioactive – which then irradiate the reactor plumbing – and, eventually, become fuel. That’s why they have to keep pumping fresh water in and dumping it out. They cannot recirculate it, even if they manage to get new plumbing installed. The next major earthquake there will begin an extinction event...

http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/05/will-fukushimas-next-earthquake-start-a-global-extinction-event/



I mean, in the midst of all the smearing and insults you didn't notice that the US has shutdown almost all information regarding this event? You didn't notice that nothing they do or did has any effect on this slowly growing disaster? You didn't notice that they kept expanding the exclusion zone? You didn't notice when the chief nuke adviser to the PM resigned in disgust in Japan? You didn't notice all the truthful explanations about this emanating from Gunderson, Busby, Caldecott, Moret? You didn't notice the radioactive shipments from Japan now showing up in ports around the world, like Rotterdam and Chile?

Get real, the following can be deduced from the mad blogger published above:

Vessels cracked: check
Cold Shutdown impossible: check
Release of radiation continues unabated into ground, into ocean, into air: Check
Water poured into reactors is leaking out, no solution: Check
These reactors cannot be entombed ala Chernobyl: Check
We will continue to experience radiation leaks that will migrate radiation to the US West Coast: Check


FUCKIING WEASELS
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 10:08 AM
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5. Haven't you noticed? The words 'could be' are used in every other
sentence when talking about radiation and the exposure to a full meltdown. Those are wishy washy words to be used by corporations that don't like litigation.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:05 AM
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7. IMO it sounds like they know but don't want to say so as to avoid panic. If concrete
were under the vessel they would have announced it. It seems impossible that they don't know.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:27 AM
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8. Yes, there is concrete. You can see it in the design of the reactor.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:35 AM
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10. Did Halliburton have the contract? If so, we're screwn. n/t
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