I Support Our President When It Comes To Terrorism

[KingOfLostSouls]

look, we have had a rough ride with president obama

yes, he has sometimes capitulated, and he has not always shown the backbone we would love him to


he has sometimes been more willing to just do his job than come flying out on an aircraft carrier with a "mission accomplished" banner over his head.



but one thing I ONE HUNDRED PERCENT agreed with him was the need to deal with al qaeda. yes, we can debate previous administrations support for fundamentalists, our military adventurism, our foreign policy mistakes.



but president obama said he would take the fight to osama bin laden, whether he was just a figurehead or not, and actually treat terrorism as a law enforcement operation and not a military war. he has treated the REAL war on terror with poise, precision, and understanding. he has shown a great intellect about.


its not like he attacked the wrong country, starting a war over it.

and I thank god we have a humane, intellectual, powerful, and decisive president in Barack H. Obama.


I support the president on the war against terrorism, for whatever else we may disagree with him on, thank god we have him and not george w. bush.

[notesdev]

1. um...

I support the president on the war against terrorism, for whatever else we may disagree with him on, thank god we have him and not george w. bush.

Pray tell, what exactly is the difference between Obama's policy and Bush's policy?

[KingOfLostSouls]

2. well

george w. bush chose to ignore any sign of worldwide terrorism his first 9 months in office. he ignored the infamous "Bin Laden Determined to Strike In US" memo and basically allowed 9-11 to happen. when the taliban offered bin laden up as a sacrifice to the US, george w. bush chose to ignore it. and in the fateful battle at tora bora, when the CIA jawbreaker teams had bin laden pinned down for a killing strike, it was donald rumsfeld and george w. bush who called off the assault. bin laden escaped and was allowed to run free.



president obama made a tough decision, and a tough call. I do not spit on osama like some people, its a tough call to decide to execute someone. the president did and tried to hold onto as much humanity as possible. george w. bush could have cared less.


if you don't know the difference, then maybe you're not fully equipped to deal with politics beyond a conspiracy theory/immature level.

[notesdev]

6. You didn't articulate a difference

Obviously Bush's pre-9/11 policy was not the same as the post-9/11 policy.

If the only thing you can cite is Bush's pre-9/11 policy as a difference between his and Obama's approaches, then what you are really saying is that there is no difference at all.

You can give another try at answering and not evading the question, if you like. If there is a substantial policy difference I would like to hear what it is.

[Capitalocracy]

8. wait, you're saying it was an execution? nt

[MadHound]

3. The trouble is, the War on Terror is a war of ideas,

A war that's not going to be won with bombs and bullets, but with the better ideas of one side or another.

Continuing to kill innocents and lay waste to a country is not going to end this war, is not going to give us victory. All we're doing is creating more terrorists, as the people we violate decide to fight back.

Furthermore, who are we fighting in this war on terror? Afghanistan didn't attack us, Iraq didn't attack us, Yemen and Sudan didn't attack us. Yet we march in, violating the rules of war, violating these countries sovereignty, and blow the hell out of them. Terrorists aren't countries, so do we continue to bounce around the world blowing the hell out of countries?

Our best bet is to bring the truth home and start showing the noble, generous side of the US. That includes rebuilding the countries we've just blown to hell, not to mention starting to spread the wealth to countries that are so desperately poor, Somolia, Rwanda, etc. Start repairing our image, changing it from that of a bloodthirsty warmongering super power to that of a benevolent giant, a big brother who nobody wants to attack.

Islamic fundamentalists don't attack us because they don't like our freedoms, they attack us because we have raped the world of wealth and resources and have given nothing back in return. For instance, we helped the Afghan citizens repel the Soviet Union in the eighties. But after the Soviets pulled out, we forgot about them. A few million dollars in rebuilding money would have gone a long way to helping out our image in the area. But instead, we snapped the purse shut, and that, not our freedoms, is what truly pissed off bin Laden and his cohorts. If we had helped in the rebuilding of Afghanistan, they would have become a grateful friend, not an angry enemy.

The War on Terror is a War of Ideas, and you don't win a war of ideas by bringing a gun to the fight.

[KingOfLostSouls]

5. I agree, and the president has shown a lot of diplomacy

we cannot win with bullets and tanks alone


we have to support people who want freedom, we have to provide food, water, health care to our somewhat enemies as well as our friends.


we have got to show people the IDEAL of america beyond just the idea of america.


but at least obama is willing to start down that path where george w. bush just wanted us to make the world into a buncha slaves to himself and others.

[MadHound]

7. What diplomacy?

He expanded the war in Afghanistan, opening a new front in Pakistan. He is continuing to violate the sovereignty of these countries and others, such as Yemen, with extra legal attacks on private citizens. His diplomacy is the same as Bush's, namely diplomacy of the bullet and bomb.

And now, his administration is starting to make noises about staying on in Iraq, and has opened another war in Libya.

Diplomacy, please.

[madokie]

4. Fuckin' A