But He Was Unarmed !!

[doublethink]

BUT HE WAS UNARMED !!

Swear if I hear this one more time …..

Google Al Queda Suicide Bombers …… learn about this terror- murdering tactic, and how many times it has been used by men, women, children oh say in the last 10 years against civilians and American Soldiers worldwide…….. and then tell me this was no excuse for Seal Team 6 to do what they did to the LEADER OF AL QUEDA in a dark room when they finally found and confronted him. Go ahead make my day.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1FKQnLIUzAs/TIHHfYMtA-I/AAAAAAAAA_k/EiSkyAoMYVg/s400/Dirty+harry.jpg



On Mission Speculation ; Possible IED’s IN and around the Bin Ladens complex hmmm could have been, who knew! Bet that complex was watched for months by satellite outdoors …… to see where everybody took a step … and what they did. But you think this wasn’t thought through by CIA, Special Forces, Commander and Chief?

Google IED’s Al Queda …. and see how many times that terror tactic has been used the last 10 years or so to murder….. civilians and American Soldiers and tell me these men of Seal Team 6 aren’t the baddest MF’s on the planet to go out and do this assignment ordered by their commander and chief Barack Obama. It was a real world suicide mission especially when they entered the building (’s) …. and they and our President knew it.

Lastly Google …… what murders, crimes Osama Bin Laden actually has confessed to in life, not accused of. Remember 911? Forget 911 …… …… and tell me Osama Bin Laden didn’t have it coming, I am not going to do your homework for you. “But we’re better than that” and so were a lot of civilians and American Soldiers who are not alive today because of this asshole. Thank you Seal Team 6, back into obscurity till next time, not a time to celebrate, but thanks again … this games over.

[The Magistrate]

1. As The Man said, Sir: "He Should Have Armed Himself...."

There was no way this was going to end any other way than his being killed by a U.S. soldier, and everyone knows this.

[doublethink]

3. Yeah ..... but main point ...... I want to get across in this thread .....

to those saying 'he wasn't armed' ...... Is ... no one could of guessed if Osama Bin Laden wouldn't himself have suicide bombers explosives on his own person .... when confronted, if that makes sense. I think it does.

[Gamow]

6. Of course it makes sense. He was dangerous enough to kill first, ask questions later

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/bin-laden-the-rules-of-engagement.html

[kentuck]

43. So were the 3000+ killed on 9/11

:shrug:

[aquart]

15. Duh.

[Teaser]

2. Well, he should've armed himself

.

[guitar man]

4. That's a good point

And a point that I think gets overlooked in the discussion about whether or not he should have been taken alive. The SEALs didn't enter just any house, they entered a house that had potentially suicidal people inside. OBL was a guy who made an infamous career out of talking people into killing themselves for his bloody cause. He had to have known he was facing his own martyrdom at some point in time too. So no, I won't fault any of those guys for dispatching all potential threats on sight whether they were holding AK-47s or not. It took a lot of damn guts to do what they did and they'll get nothing but the utmost honor and respect from me for doing it. :patriot:

[doublethink]

16. What's being reported is along those lines .....

Bin Laden doomed once raid began

"The Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday after saying Navy SEALs had orders to capture the al-Qaida leader if he gave himself up, U.S. officials later acknowledged the assault force was ordered to accept a surrender only if its members could be sure he didn't have a bomb hidden under his clothing and posed no other threat.

The Times reported a senior congressional aide briefed on the rules of engagement said, "He would have had to have been naked for them to allow him to surrender." -snip- emphaise mine, more here ......

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/05/04/Bin-Laden-doomed-once-raid-began/UPI-43521304520541/#ixzz1LS5U4VWK

[guitar man]

21. Exactly

And beyond that, they might have had the whole house wired up with explosives, they had no way to know since they had never been inside. It took a lot of guts to go in there, tinged with just a touch of crazy. It damn sure wasn't like the local cops kicking down the door on a crack house by a long shot . :o

[AtomicKitten]

5. Damn. I forgot how good looking the young Clint Eastwood was.

Downright sponge-worthy.

[blondeatlast]

17. Not my taste but damn, I forgot how handy that line is!

:rofl:

[Swede]

7. I can't see the 911 families getting too choked up.

3000 people just living a quiet life get snuffed out. This guy got what was coming.

[coalition_unwilling]

8. Here's a modest proposal for you: let's just execute anyone

accused of a capital crime and dispense entirely with such niceties as trials and presumption of innocence.

:sarcasm:

Welcome to my Ignore list.

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[Warren DeMontague]

11. We can start with all the goofy fucking straw men, then move on to the dumb-ass red herrings.

Send 'em all down the dreaded slippery slope.



He wasn't "accused", he was GUILTY, and this wasn't just any run-of-the-mill psychopathic criminal, even.

You realize that, I'm sure.

[Mz Pip]

22. Not anyone

but you already know that.

Presumption of innocence my ass. :eyes:

[coalition_unwilling]

25. Yeah, I know a concept like 'presumption of innocence' seems

all like quaint and obsolete in this day and age. It's why I recommend returning to the practice of Star Chamber, followed by drawing and quartering (perhaps with some bear baiting thrown in to please the crowd).

Let's just execute everyone accused of a capital crime without extending to them the courtesy of a trial. What could possibly be the problem with that?

[Mz Pip]

29. You really do like

hyperbole and strawmen don't you?

Get a grip.

[coalition_unwilling]

31. No, I like due process of law. Welcome to my Ignore list - n/t

[blondeatlast]

33. Oooh, how cool! Can be on it too? Please?

I don't use mine, but yours sounds just swell! :bounce:

:rofl:

[Mz Pip]

34. LOL!

Love it. :rofl:

[cherokeeprogressive]

37. I demand you put me on your ignore list. n/t

[guitar man]

35. I'll tell you what

Bin laden is dead, but Ayman al-Zawahiri is still out there. Why don't you go bring him in alive and show us how it's done and we will all be happy to see him get a trial. Just try to forget that him and/or any of his men are insane suicidal fuckers and may be wired up with explosives at any time and you'll be fine. Hell, the whole joint may be wired with explosives but don't let that bother you, just go on in and tell them to throw their hands up, I'm sure they'll surrender to you and come on in to stand trial ;)

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[cherokeeprogressive]

38. You should run for DA in a red county.

[guitar man]

39. Good

I'm happy to be on your ignore list. Now go get your check from the fucking Koch brothers for trying to make us look like idiots here. :eyes:

[Shiver]

41. "Courtesy of a trial?"

:rofl:

First of all, everyone accused of a capital crime does not have the inherent danger factor bin Laden did. And few are as universally reviled as he was. They can be taken relatively safely, most of the time, and rarely does one have to worry about some nut attempting to blow up the courthouse to free a serial killer.

Assuming bin Laden could have been taken alive, and didn't take his own life inside his cell, where would the trial be held? Considering the problems they had trying to find a court for the Guantanimo detainees, would you honestly expect any city in the U.S. to offer themselves up? Any city in Europe, Asia, South America - anywhere? Any such place would immediately become a target, no matter the security. Better to be blown up in service of Allah than pronounced guilty by infidels. Hostages around the world would be taken, with threats that they would be executed unless bin Laden was released. Which would not happen.

And if that didn't happen, can you say 'kangaroo court'? Finding a judge and jury that was impartial would be next to impossible.

A trial would have been great, assuming it could ever actually be held, but as it is I'm fine with him having been killed rather than captured. But it really doesn't matter what I say, does it? You'll just keep throwing up your straw men and adding people to your ignore list until you have nothing left but people who agree with you.

Enjoy your echo chamber.

[tallahasseedem]

44. Your sympathy for Osama is noted...

Now PLEASE put me on your ignore list. Thanks in advance!

[Warren DeMontague]

9. LEAVE BIN LADEN ALONE!!!!!!!

[blondeatlast]

12. Shame on me...

:rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

13. I'm telling you, from some of the posts here, you'd think the guy was a baby seal.

Or perhaps a big-eyed japanimation character.

[blondeatlast]

19. Why, it's a remarkable likeness; it's even got that playful

curve to the mouth...

What a SWEET guy! :puke:

[blondeatlast]

26. You should post that as an OP: "Amazing last photo of ObL."

or some other such title.

[Trajan]

18. LMFAO ....

[SidDithers]

45. Well played, sir...

:thumbsup:

Sid

[closeupready]

49. ROFL

:rofl: :hi:

[Mrsadkins9399]

14. It blows my mind

That people are more upset about OBL not getting due process than having sympathy for 9/11 victims

What about the jumpers?
The firefighters
The people who were trapped on higher floors due to the fire and knew they were going to die
The people on the planes

Where was their due process?

They are the victims-not OBL, his wives,or kids.

[Amonester]

23. And they should not (ever) forget the humanitarian workers....

and all the diplomatic staffs who were only working to help mostly poor people in Africa when the EMBASSY exploded or collapsed.

Hundreds of other peaceful people there thought they were safe (IN AN EMBASSY, no less!).

And they try to convince other DUers that freaking monster deserved a fair trial while he himself NEVER thought of due process when blowing up EMBASSIES??

Good grief!

[Mrsadkins9399]

27. Also don't forget the people

Who were killed on the USS Cole,Bali,London,and Madrid too.

[Amonester]

28. And every troops who either died or still suffer from having been

deployed to Afghanistan (to chase him and the effin' talibans).

That's an awful lot of suffering when adding them all, and they cry about 'due process'???

I'm outta here.

Can't take any more of that.

I'll be back when the next topic du jour will surface....

[deacon]

40. It's become ridiculous. He killed thousands and thousands - would you think in a potential encounter

he would be...... UNARMED!!!! A shoot first scenario all the way.

[doublethink]

42. And with the history of Al Queda Suicide Bombers ......

just because he may or may not have had a AK47, pistol or whatever near by or in his hand was no guarantee he wasn't "armed" when confronted. That's the game his terror organization plays and it came back to bite him in the ass in end. I also commend the Navy Seals ... for not getting too trigger happy around the rest of the family, children etc... I mean it's not like Al Queda never used women and children as suicide bombers before have they. :eyes:

This unarmed argument is illogical when it came to Bin Laden because of Al Queda's own rules of engagement.

[bhikkhu]

20. I'm sure there was a split second where some serious surrendering might have done it

...but I wouldn't expect them to have given him much more than that, considering the circumstances. He made his own bed on that one, I'd say.

[Mz Pip]

24. OBL had years to surrender

Beside what he did sort of goes beyond your everyday run of the mill murderer.

As far as I'm concerned, he died on the battlefield. One that he created, I might add.

[tallahasseedem]

46. You should take your last line...

and transform it into its own post. Amazing! :)

[blondeatlast]

30. I knew a woman who thought Charles Manson was radical chic and

just so cool and awesome and bitchin' and all! She had a tattoo of his face and wore his t-shirt to college.

I'm beginning to think she's posting here, I swear.

[doublethink]

32. Yikes! n.t.

[AsahinaKimi]

47. "A man's got to know his limitations.."

Lieutenant Briggs: Suppose they panic and start shooting?
Harry Callahan: Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot!~Magnum Force (1973)

[Orsino]

48. He was also uncharged, unarrested, untried and unconvicted.

I can't pretend to know what the president knew...but am afraid that we'll never know. I am certain that OBL's death was a lot tidier than his capture would have been.

This way, few right-wingers are able to raise serious objections, so I guess we're supposed to hail this thing as "justice."

[kenny blankenship]

50. He probably wasn't holding a gun when the Khobar Towers blew up or the Cole was attacked

or when the WTC was hit by planes full of civilians, or the Pentagon...

Generals do not carry weapons themselves as a rule - Patton's ivory handled six shooters notwithstanding. That does not make them off limits as targets.