Bin Laden earned those two bullets...

[MrScorpio]

I'm happy that he earned them from us.

[Shagbark Hickory]

1. Sucks we had to go to all these wars when 2 simple little bullets created all this "closure"

[Dark]

3. To be fair, at one point one of those wars was justified...

Then, OOOOOH, shiny thing... and we had Iraq. Now, it's a virtually unwinnable quagmire.

So many dead for nothing.

[rfranklin]

10. You really think this couldn't have been accomplished with SEALs in 2001?

There was absolutely no need to invade Afghanistan.

I seem to remember that we were fighting for women's rights when we invaded, according to Laura Bush. Or some other half-assed reason.

[MrScorpio]

16. All that is a sign of the failure of our political system

And our dependence on big oil and the military industrial complex. When we've had incompetent and deliberately malfeasant leaders run this country, what else do you expect?

[cali]

2. whatever.

violence of any sort isn't something I rejoice in.

[nxylas]

25. Why do you hate America?

:sarcasm:

[Bonobo]

4. It's okay if Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq or Vietnam decides our ex-POTUS deserves death too?

How can you answer that one?

[pintobean]

6. Can't. It makes no sense.

[Bonobo]

7. Unless you are not a native speaker of English...

I can't understand what doesn't make sense about it?

Or is it the logical connection between the OP and my question that is challenging you?

[pintobean]

18. Yes, your "logic" is challenging.

It obviously makes sense to you, but no one else seems to get it.

[Bonobo]

20. Keep reading and thinking. You may still get there. nt

[pintobean]

21. I don't think so.

[Bonobo]

24. You said it, not me.

;)

[pintobean]

26. Your brilliance appears to be lonely.

[Bonobo]

28. Tough questions are hard to confront when you are in the wrong philosophically.

But you really need to read more if you are having trouble making such simple logical connections.

I fear for the future of the US.

[Ikonoklast]

8. Since when is OBL a head of state?

He was a common criminal, of the 'mass murderer' type.

They can come after Charlie Manson, that would be roughly analagous.




Oh, and any one can certainly try to kill any U.S. politician they want, current or former, as long as they accept the consequences.

[Solomon]

11. I've been trying to make this same point. He was not a head of

state for chrissakes.

[Bonobo]

13. How is that relevant? Of course, I understand that but I am not sure what you mean

by pointing out the distinction.

Please help me to see your point more clearly.

[Bonobo]

12. I don't think that is relevant.

If he was a common criminal, the correct action would be a trial.

Furthermore, Charlie Manson being taken out by Mexico in an invasion of a Texas prison (or wherever) would not be tolerated.

Finally, your last statement about "accepting the consequences" seems to imply that "might makes right" as opposed to the rule of law or respect for sovereignty.

[Ikonoklast]

29. Respect for sovreignty? How about harboring a criminal wanted world-wide?

And don't give me any crap about Pakistan being in the dark about OBL, it ain't gonna fly. They tried mis-direction for years, and no one here was buying their bullshit.

Common criminals that decide not to surrender when given years to do so, and continue their indiscriminate violence get exactly what they get in the end, a violent death in a firefight.

It was OBL's decision to not surrender himself up for trial.


If they decide to go down fighting instead, they get exactly what they deserve, 185 gr. @2485 fps in the noggin.

[MrScorpio]

14. Do you really think that I'm justifying all that crap...

Merely for the sake of those two bullets?

If so, you have no idea what I'm talking about.

[Bonobo]

17. I don't think you are but I think you are misunderstanding my point.

What I am saying is that the idea of who is a monster is subject to a certain amount of subjectivity.

Yes, of course OBL is a monster to us. To some, he is not.

George Bush was, to us, a horrible President, but not perhaps deserving of two bullets in his head while he sleeps. But to some, this is exactly what he deserves.

Do you see where I am going now?

Might alone cannot make right. You see where I am trying to go?

[MrScorpio]

19. The man declared war on us...

I'm sure that he was well aware that such a declaration could earn him a much deserved martyrdom.

[Bonobo]

23. Well that is true, but I don't think it addresses my questions.

OBL certainly "got what he deserved" in that sense, but that doesn't mean that some of our leaders and citizens also deserve to get what is owed to them from the perspective of others.

Should others feel free to mete out justice to anyone that they perceive to be a monster if only they have the strength to carry it out?

[Hosnon]

31. Here is where you are wrong:

Whether he was a mass murderer who earned death is not subject to any amount of subjectivity. He did it and admitted to doing it.

[johnroshan]

15. You seem to miss some inviolable truths.

We are never wrong. Whatever we do is right and moral and God-approved. We can murder, rape and destroy because we are USA and God has told us its ok.

[Hosnon]

30. How is that even remotely analogous? nt.

[Uben]

5. When I see pictures of him smiling,,,,,

.....it puts a smile on my face knowing an American put a fucking bullet in his forehead. He's not smiling now. They blew that fucking smile right off of his face!

Al Qaeda called a meeting to determine who is now going to be their leader. So far, no one has showed up. Wonder why?

[johnroshan]

22. If you don't mind me asking, why is revenge so important to you?

Obviously, bringing him to trial would be a much more favorable deal to us as we could gain much more insight into AQ from the leader himself.

Isn't keeping US safe a much more important priority than silly ideas of retribution?

[Uben]

27. Hmmmm? Let's see.......

...maybe it's because he KILLED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ! Bringing him to trial would have accomplished nothing. Dead men can't run, they can't escape, and they can't kill ANYONE ELSE. I'm not one that is appalled by assassination. It is a necessary evil.
Killing him may have saved thousands of lives. And, he deserved what he got a thoousand times over.

A better question is why do you think he deserved any less?

[Ohio Joe]

9. K&R - nt

[deaniac21]

32. Yay! I love it when we kill!