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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:11 PM
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So everybody is glad one more despot is in hell, but what about this DNA test?
The legal system better not tell another rape victim it takes over a year to get the DNA evidence tested.

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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:13 PM
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1. He got "special treatment".
The same way the super rich cut everyone in line on the organ donation list.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:40 AM
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16. When OBL's sister died in NY, they got her DNA for future use....n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:13 PM
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2. Who said it takes a year? The only possible excuse I can hink of is that
there is a horrendous backlog wherever you are!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:14 PM
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3. With no disrespect to those who have been raped, this was pretty serious stuff today
And I'm sure the military, in their massive budget, has a DNA expert that can handle these cases at an expedited pace.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:14 PM
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4. It does because of the backlog.
Edited on Mon May-02-11 10:15 PM by originalpckelly
In addition, an individual who works in the industry informed us that because they knew of what markers to looks for they were more able to do the test and come back with a meaningful result. They already had a sample of a relatives DNA to work with.

It is my understanding that this is why it takes so long for us, in part.

It is also true that at a crime lab, there are so many requests for that testing, that although the technology doesn't take that long to use, processing all the requests with limited resources does.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:15 PM
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5. Having a direct line to FBI and CIA likely shaved a few minutes off the wait.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:17 PM
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6. Seriously?
Ok.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:23 PM
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7. They had already created some of the PCR primers necessary...
Edited on Mon May-02-11 10:25 PM by hlthe2b
anticipating this would be needed some day. His sister had died of a brain tumor some time ago and they had her DNA from her brain from which they could extract mitochondrial DNA to compare. That is why it was so "quick."

This is important to understand. That is not the case generally, at all. Int he case of a rape kit, they have to sequence from scratch, so that they can compare to what may be multiple possible suspect's DNA, each of which have to be sequenced as well. It takes quite a while

Here we discussed it here with a nice summary from one of our Molecular Biologists.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1013081
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:38 PM
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8. Okay, and since the body is anchored at the bottom of the Arabian Sea, all is well.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:39 PM
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9. What does that have to do with answering how they managed
to complete the DNA match so quickly?
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:57 PM
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12. In the event there could be any questioning of the DNA "quick" results,
without a body, there can be no dispute. Good deal, huh?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:22 PM
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15. Very good deal. It's not only a matter of identity, though.
I've been trying to figure out why this "sea burial" bothers me so much.

And what I come up with is that the returning of the dead to their own side, to their own people, is part of the resolution of an armed conflict. It's one of the most basic gestures of humanity that can be made after a war. You return the corpse and show that although there was a fight and you won, you didn't desecrate the dead, It's a gesture of fundamental respect for humanity, for being human.

It just seems to me that when these rituals are neglected for whatever reason, we are diminished a little. A little regard for humankind gets lost. And there's little enough of that as it is.

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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:14 PM
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14. They do it on CSI in a few minutes. n/t
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