VICTORY! Cafe Press Pulls Psalms 109:8 Designs

[wicket]

http://blog.cafepress.com/2009/11/20/psalm-1098-update/

This morning we made the decision to remove all Psalms 109:8 designs from CafePress.

The public debate started with questioning if the design was simply intended to be criticism of the President or something much worse. The discourse was surprisingly civil online, given the heated nature of the topic. Given that, and the positions of groups like the ACLU and the Anti-Defamation League, we decided to let the dialogue play out publicly before making a final decision.

Last night we posted a poll on our blog, read through the emails we’ve received and weighed the nature of the calls we’ve received on the topic. In the process we also learned that many of the original designers of the Psalm 109:8 designs had already decided to remove them on their own.

General consensus has proven that the design does point to a broader interpretation of the Psalm and thus has been deemed inappropriate for sale at CafePress.

We try to create an atmosphere of self-expression. Many of the things we encounter are not black and white, but grey. When the dialogue is civil, we want to let the larger community work things out rather than making an uninformed ruling. The dialogue has played out and common sentiment has reached agreement – this merchandise is not appropriate.

Thank you all for your input.

[Frosty1]

1. Cool

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Pryderi]

2. Great! n/t

[glinda]

3. Yea but they did that before then re-instated it. I say they will not get my bizness no matter what

Obvious that profit rules for them over a conscience.

[rocktivity]

4. TRANSLATION: "We lost too much business

Including DU's."

CUE THE VONAGE THEME!

:woohoo:
rocktivity

[wicket]

6. "CUE THE VONAGE THEME!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

:woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[beac]

18. And I hope it STAYS lost. Backpeddling at this late hour is transparent as hell and

should not buy them any good will.





(And THANKS A LOT for calling up that unspeakable ear worm! :spank: ;) )

[graywarrior]

5. Too bad we couldn't have this much power to stop the media in its tracks

[kayakjohnny]

11. Yes. If only.

And the dang government while we're at it.

[aquart]

7. I just read it. What scumsucking pigs. Thank you, CafePress.

[krispos42]

8. I just checked 10 minutes ago....

I found a Psalm 109:8 design easily enough.


Of course, I didn't try to order it...

[wicket]

10. BAH!

Wish I could say I'm surprised...

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. Yep, I just did too. Still there.

http://shop.cafepress.com/psalm-109

This morning we made the decision to remove all Psalms 109:8 designs from CafePress. They said.

they did not say they WOULD remove it or when...just that they decided to.

I say....let's keep on them.

I have already e-mailed them.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Too late.

It's not like it flew under their radar. They knew what it was and decided to keep it up for some amount of time. They even wanted to milk it with their on-line poll.

[Leftist Agitator]

12. Too late.

They tried to profit from calls for the assassination of a U.S. President.

Fuck 'em.

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. Funny...they replied to my e-mail with this:

as of yesterday.....

"Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!

Cafepress looks at content on a case by case basis, and makes decisions about what content is permissible based on our content usage policy.

We initially pulled the Psalm 109:8 content from our products today because broader media dialog indicated that these designs potentially suggested violence towards the president. Based on current public discourse and further review of the actual content, we have determined that it is fair political commentary and we are in the process of reinstating this merchandise. As with all of our content, these designs will continue to be reviewed and if at any time their meaning is construed as advocating violence we will revisit our decision."

So they were for it before they were against it
before they were for it again, and now they are against it again?



:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf:

[Renew Deal]

14. That's good to hear.

:bounce:

[RepublicanElephant]

15. zazzle wins this one. nt

[Clio the Leo]

17. Good work DU-ers! NT

[Diamonique]

19. Rachel slammed them again last night.

I wonder if that had anything to do with them finally coming to their senses.

[SkankWhisperer]

20. I Received the Same Reply to My Inquiry

I felt it was well-reasoned, polite and very business-like. They are in a tough spot having to distinguish satire from the inappropriate, that is always a subjective judgment call.
Still, my bet is that $$$$ was a big factor in their decision.
Let's move on.

[closeupready]

21. I'm sorry, but the initial reinstatement is what offends me most,

and nothing they can do now will make up for that. Shame on them.

[Riley18]

22. I will never buy another thing from them and neither will my family.

I sent them an email and told them that the psalm should be for their business. "May is go bankrupt and be taken over by another"

[stlsaxman]

23. Bullshit it's still up...

as of Saturday 11/21/09 0700 Central-

[Vinnie From Indy]

24. Fuck Cafe Press!

The dumbasses forgot to add "assassination" to their keyword tags.

It is beyond belief that they would participate in this naked call for assassination. Cheers to all the DU'ers that called them out on this and thanks to Skinner for pulling out.

I also checked and it appears they are still selling this crap.

[krawhitham]

25. assassination

http://www.cafepress.com/+fitted_tshirt,196389418

[sellitman]

27. Holy crap!

Forget Cafe Press.

They have earned a lifetime of scorn.

[closeupready]

26. From the comments, someone made a good point: they have a responsibility to be pro-active

in cases like this, not merely "let the dialogue play out". If they can not or will not exercise good judgment from Day One, I have no use for them, period.