Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

House Braces For Final, Painful Compromises But Leadership Confident They'll Win Over More Blue Dogs

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:00 AM
Original message
House Braces For Final, Painful Compromises But Leadership Confident They'll Win Over More Blue Dogs
House Braces For Final, Painful Compromises But Leadership Confident They'll Win Over More Blue Dogs
Christina Bellantoni | December 22, 2009, 9:50AM

House Democrats believe they will secure additional health care reform votes from Blue Dog Democrats thanks to the Senate's more conservative version of the legislation. And despite deep misgivings, the House Democratic leadership expects to lose few if any progressive Democratic votes over the demise of the public option, paving the way to get a final bill to President Obama's desk by Feb. 1.

As the Senate prepares for a final vote to clear the bill, TPMDC chatted with several top House aides to get a sense of where things stand and what can be expected over the next few weeks. There are four key sticking points to be negotiated: the public option, abortion language, immigration and how taxes are applied to pay for it.

Leadership aides say progressives are prepared to take it on the chin and will vote for a final bill without a public option. But they say pro-life Democrats will seek direction from the U.S. Conference of Bishops as to whether they can support an amendment weaker than Rep. Bart Stupak's, thus setting up what will likely be the most difficult negotiation before a final vote.

Senate Democrats have repeatedly warned that any substantive changes to the bill they will pass tomorrow night will lose the fragile 60-vote coalition they've built, and it looks like they will get their way.

"I don't see how we don't largely accede to the Senate," a House leadership aide said.

<SNIP>

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/house-braces-for-final-painful-compromises-but-leadership-confident-theyll-win-over-more-blue-dogs.php
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:07 AM
Response to Original message
1. You know what the scariest part of this article is...
"Pro-life Democrats will seek direction from the U.S. Conference of Bishops."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Absolutely agree
THESE are the people we need to primary out. Did anyone watch any of that scary "Pray to beat health reform" video? With DeMint and Brownback and Bachmann joining in? This is the crap that scares me to death. And Democrats looking for guidance efrom bishops on legislation? That's what should be covered 24/7 by our freakin' media, not Tiger Woods and tea partiers.

Too scary for words.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Disgustingly, the bishops have already said Nelson's compromise does not meet with their approval.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:19 AM
Response to Original message
3. I think they will too....
.... if I'm not mistaken Maxine Waters has gone from "I will oppose this bill" to "I will wait to see what is in this bill."

Everyone is beginning to see the inevitability of this whole thing .... and more importantly, the inevitable of what will happen if its NOT passed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
5. If the "New Dems" hang together with the Progressives, it WON'T MATTER what the Blue Dogs think...
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 11:30 AM by PassingFair
Chance of THAT happening = ZERO


Please watch closely and stay tuned.

The DLC does NOT want SinglePayer OR PublicOption...

They will let the Blue Dogs take the heat, just
like the Catholic Church lets the Fundies and
the Mormons take the heat in the abortion and
gay marriage struggles.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:31 AM
Response to Original message
6. I hope this will convince the voters that they need to vote out
Republicans. Their failure to compromise at all should be taken into account.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:42 AM
Response to Original message
7. Here's hoping that enough Blue Dogs sign on to overcome Stupak's Stupids.
Stupak's gonna make noise, but hopefully, enough fiscal conservadems agree to vote for this (disgustingly enough, because the public option was stripped) to hold the fetus fetishists at bay.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 06:12 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC