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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 08:31 AM
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Anyone watching Morning Joe? Joe in extremely strong terms called Newt a very bad man
He spoke of how he can not support hi because he thinks he is dangerous to the country, the Republican party, and conservatism. He spoke of how he demonizes anyone in his way, mentioning that he called Sebellius, "a nice lady", a Stalinist. He then mentioned that Coburn has said similar things.

I seriously do not recall anyone who was a politician ever speaking a potential nominee of their own possible nominee in these words. There were Democrats, who never held office, who became PUMAs. The Zell Millers and Ed Koches in 2004 disagreed on policy, not character. This is coming from people who were in his party and with him in the House.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 08:33 AM
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1. Newt developed very few personal relationships during all his years
in the House.

In this way he is very similar to Romney who also doesn't boast close friends with the Republican elite.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 08:40 AM
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2. Newt has not a single endorsement from his own Congress
A news analyst on TV last night (can't remember his name) noted that of all the GOPers who served in the House while Newt was Speaker, not a single one has endorsed him for president, even though some have endorsed other candidates.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 09:09 AM
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3. Joe was wrong. Newt is an evil man...a schoolyard bully who never grew up. EOM
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 09:10 AM
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4. talk about the pot calling the kettle...................
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 09:16 AM
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5. LINK: "Morning Joe host rebukes Gingrich as 'bad person'"
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 02:33 PM
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14. Let's be clear about Scarboro's role here ...
he has done his deranged, about ready to smash someone's head off the table rage thing on EVERY ONE of the candidates who have peaked above Romney.

Did against Perry, did it against Cain ... Was not as visibly angry, but he did all he could to tear down Bachman.

Joe's "role" is as the even handed R, and his job is to shepard the herd toward Romney.
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Lebam in LA Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 10:08 AM
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6. He is right on this one but
he also seems to think Jeb Bush should come to the rescue. Jeb Bush will NEVER be presient. His brother made sure of that.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 10:26 AM
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7. And he kept repeating it
over and over again. He really wanted to get his point out there. Evidently no one liked Newt in the nineties and they haven't changed their minds.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 10:36 AM
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8. Joe repeats everything over and over.
:)
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 11:49 AM
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12. That's true
He really loves the sound of his own voice and doesn't want anyone else to control the conversation. His ego is equal to Newt's.
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 11:20 AM
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9. Yep
I saw it and trust me; it’s hard to watch Morning Joe, because he never shuts-up long enough to allow anyone else to talk. But in this case, he knows more about Newt than anyone at the table.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 11:23 AM
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10. It has nothing to do with Newt being 'a bad person' if he thought Newt could win he's be for him
the GOP establishment is out for Newt because they believe he can't win and Romney was their annointed one. The MSM will soon be doing the same because their plan is for Romney too.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 05:51 PM
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17. Are you kidding? The MSM loves the idea of a Newt nomination
It's a dream come true, second to only a Palin campaign. Romney bores them all. Even Fox isn't too keen on him.
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Cigar11 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 11:32 AM
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11. The Republicans, the Tea Party and the GOP deserve Newt!
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 12:51 PM
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13. Did you ever wonder if Newt had to go to make room for Junior?
Really,the whole Repuke establishment turned on Newt, and next Junior is their nominee.

Was that really just a coincidence?

Say whatever you want about Newt, but he is a smart man, while Junior is an idiot.

Connect the dots here.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 04:31 PM
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15. I don't think so for several reasons
The main being he left in disgrace with ethics transgressions, the discovery that as he spoke against Bill Clinton, he was in a six year long affair with the woman he is now married to and, perhaps most importantly, he was seen as having over reached when he led the effort to impeach Clinton, which was then seen as very negative for the Republicans.

Think back to 1999 and 2000. Al Gore picked Joe Lieberman, rather than someone like John Kerry, because of Lieberman's status as the opposite of Bill Clinton's anything goes. This was seen as necessary for Gore - in spite of the fact that Gore was chosen by Clinton for his clean, eagle scout background. Bush, a mean drunk until 40, was able to use the Christian theme of the prodigal son to speak of being reborn and to run on bringing back honor and decency to the White House.

In that context, Gingrich, who divorced his second wife in 2000 and married his paramour. There was NO way he was viable at that moment.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 05:41 PM
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16. Perhaps Joe is projecting...
Edited on Tue Dec-06-11 05:42 PM by polichick
Edited to be slightly more polite.
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