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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:50 AM
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New Poll: The Grinch sours in Florida leads Romney 41-17 percent!!

Newt Gingrich is the current favorite in Florida’s Jan. 31 Republican presidential primary, picking up supporters who fled Herman Cain to claim 41 percent in a poll conducted Tuesday night for The Florida Times-Union.

Gingrich has as much support as the next four candidates combined in the telephone survey of 513 registered voters who say they’re likely to cast ballots in the primary. The poll, conducted by InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion Research, has a margin of error of 4 percent.


The Times-Union poll was the first conducted in Florida since the woman claiming the affair broadcast her story on television. In it, Cain drops to third place with 13 percent, behind Mitt Romney’s 17. No other candidate is in double digits.



Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2011-11-30/story/poll-newt-gingrich-soars-florida#ixzz1fCyIAVXC
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:03 PM
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1. Sours?
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 12:04 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
or soars? I'm guessing the latter since he is way ahead of Romney? :shrug:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:21 PM
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4. yes, you probably would be right. But I'm sure that Mitt is sour about it.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:52 PM
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8. I'm sure he is
I thought that Newt's campaign was dead in the water too. I actually never really thought he had much of a chance given all of his baggage but..........:shrug:
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:10 PM
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2. Why am I not surprised?
Anyone who would elect Rick Scott would certainly support Gasbag Newt.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:23 PM
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5. Yes but don't forget
It wasn't long ago that Florida had Cain on top and old Newt was way down the ladder. Will Newt stay on top? Hard to say, but if it's the anti Romney candidate they want, there isn't many left to chose from. I think the only ones that have not been on top so far are Ron Paul, Huntsman, and of course Santorum. Paul won't get the crazies to vote for him, and neither will Huntsman, that only leaves Santorum, and I think he is too crazy even for the tea baggers!

I am waiting for Romeny to go after Newt and all of Newt's past baggage that is going to be an issue either in the republican primary, or if by some miracle Newt wins the primary, in the national election. Since both of them are flip floppers, and they both have NO plan at all on how to fix the mess Bush and his gang got us into, I don't think president Obama really cares which on of them he runs against, though I still think Romney will be the republican candidate when the smoke clears!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:37 PM
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7. of course they would prefer Newt - he is unelectable. Romney could very well win.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 12:38 PM by Douglas Carpenter
There is a reason why the Democrats are running anti-Romney adds now - They not only want to soften him up for next November - if things should go that way - they want to see him defeated in the primaries, of course. Nothing could make them more ecstatic than to see Romney lose the battle for the Republican nomination to Gingrich. I have not come across any dispassionate writing on the subject that doesn't agree that Romney would have a fair to good chance of defeating President Obama - given the state of the economy. Yes Romney is vulnerable on some key areas, his Mormonism, a less than enthusiastic base, a record for flip-flopping and just generally kind of a bore. Plus his ties to the financial industry during a period of economic populism will certainly not favor him. But on the other hand in a general election - no incumbent president has won reelection with an unemployment rate in the 9% vicinity in 75% years. And Romney is photogenic and to most ordinary people he sounds reasonable, pragmatic and moderate. Gingrich is just plain nasty and offensive. He is simply an unlikable and unelectable extremist. It would be much harder to paint Romney in such a negative light as Gingrich effortlessly paints himself.
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Johnny2X2X Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:08 PM
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9. You are correct sir
Romney is the only candidate that has a chance at defeating Obama and it's not a good one at that. Gingrich will lose a landslide.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:24 PM
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10. I also think a Gingrich nomination would be more fun for everyone
A Romney vs Obama contest would actually produce a certain degree of enthusiasm gap on both sides. Of course most Republicans will support Romney and most Democrats will support Obama. But the current Republican Party base would be highly qualified and skeptical in their support. Many Democrats who obviously would prefer to see Obama win reelection would not be horrified at the thought of Romney presidency - although they certainly would not like it. Gingrich is almost apocalyptic in his language that contains phraseology reminiscent of the ideological stridency of Mao's Red Book. Whereas most Democrats would view a Romney victory as an undesirable event, but not the end of the world. The thought of a Gingrich victory would have us wondering if we are walking into the abyss of a new dark age. Although I would expect a Democratic landslide if Gingrich were to become the nominee -- Just the thought of the unthinkable would prove a real motivating factor.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:19 PM
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3. Sours... LOL
Yep---it's sour like a rotten lemon.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:25 PM
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6. Romney is a shape shifter ...
not merely a flip flopper. Conservative Republicans have little reason to trust that he will stick with any position he takes. They fear he will morph into a liberal as soon as elected.

Newt has a long and troubled record but many Republicans may have forgot his past personal problems. It is also possible that he has matured and changed for the better over the years. Time and the upcoming campaign will tell. I suspect a nasty dirty Republican primary if it ends up to be Gingrich versus Romney.

Obama should have no problems with either if the economy shows ANY signs of improvement.

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Cognitive_Resonance Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:33 PM
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11. Newt as nominee would have the potential to sink the GOP nationwide. I have to believe the
establishment will conduct ops to derail his campaign. They can't risk that kind of damage.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:51 PM
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13. They could be thinking of drafting someone at the convention if Gingrinch is the nominee.
maybe Jeb.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:51 PM
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12. Holy crap! Gringrinch is on a roll.
The GOPers are in a world of hurt.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:03 PM
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14. I find those numbers hard to believe simply because of the trendlines on Romney
From what I read at Daily Kos, the last poll conducted by that company in Florida about the GOP race had Romney at 30%, yet now his support has dropped down to just 17%, from what?

Romney hasn't had any kind of scandal since their last poll, so why has his support dropped so fast?

Sure polls have shown Romney in a slow decline over the months, but other than that he's held fairly steady across the board, Romney certainly hasn't lost anywhere near half the support he once had.
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