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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:08 PM
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OMG! OBAMA Please STOP THIS! Dana Perino, Victor Ashe, Hudson Institute?
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:22 PM by KoKo
PLEASE STOP IT! I thought our new Dem Think Tank.."Center for American Progress" was your chief advisor for your Presidency!

Now it's looking like the Hudson Institute, Bush Administration and VICTOR ASHE


Obama Nominates Former Bush Aide Dana Perino for Administration Job
Posted:
11/19/09
Filed Under:George W. Bush, Bush Administration, Obama Administration

Obama Nominates Former Bush Aide Dana Perino for Administration Job
Posted:
11/19/09

President Obama has nominated George W. Bush's former press secretary Dana Perino for a post on the board overseeing government-sponsored international broadcasting.

Perino, who worked in the Bush White House from 2005-2009, was appointed Wednesday to the Broadcasting Board of Governors, AFP reported. Her nomination must be confirmed by the Senate.

"I'm honored by the president's announcement and I'm looking forward to serving on the bipartisan board, if I'm confirmed," Perino said.
The BBG administers overseas media outlets like Voice of America, Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia. Created in 1994, the agency "works to serve as an example of a free and professional press," according to its Web site. It is funded by taxpayers and had a budget of $717.4 million in 2009.


Perino is currently a contributor to Fox News and a counselor for public relations firm Burson-Marsteller.

UPDATE: Three others were also nominated to the BBG, according to a White House press release:

Victor Ashe served as U.S. Ambassador to Poland from 2004 to 2009. The Republican was a state legislator in Tennessee and the longest serving mayor of Knoxville. GOOGLE "VICTOR ASHE/POPPY BUSH!)

Dennis Mulhaupt founded Commonwealth Partners, a firm that advises philanthropic institutions and families. He previously served as an executive vice president at the Los Angeles-based public broadcasting company KCET.

S. Enders Winbush is a senior vice president at the think tank and public policy research organization The Hudson Institute. He served as director of Radio Liberty in Germany.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/19/obama-nominates-former-bush-aide-dana-perino-for-administration/

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President Obama has nominated George W. Bush's former press secretary Dana Perino for a post on the board overseeing government-sponsored international broadcasting.

Perino, who worked in the Bush White House from 2005-2009, was appointed Wednesday to the Broadcasting Board of Governors, AFP reported. Her nomination must be confirmed by the Senate.

"I'm honored by the president's announcement and I'm looking forward to serving on the bipartisan board, if I'm confirmed," Perino said.
The BBG administers overseas media outlets like Voice of America, Radio Free Europe and Radio Free Asia. Created in 1994, the agency "works to serve as an example of a free and professional press," according to its Web site. It is funded by taxpayers and had a budget of $717.4 million in 2009.

Perino is currently a contributor to Fox News and a counselor for public relations firm Burson-Marsteller.


UPDATE: Three others were also nominated to the BBG, according to a White House press release:

Victor Ashe served as U.S. Ambassador to Poland from 2004 to 2009. The Republican was a state legislator in Tennessee and the longest serving mayor of Knoxville. (GOOGLE this GUY)

Dennis Mulhaupt founded Commonwealth Partners, a firm that advises philanthropic institutions and families. He previously served as an executive vice president at the Los Angeles-based public broadcasting company KCET. (COMMONWEALTH PARTNERS?)

S. Enders Winbush is a senior vice president at the think tank and public policy research organization The Hudson Institute. (THE THINK TANK THAT HIRED SCOOTER LIBBY AFTER HE WAS INDICTED!) He served as director of Radio Liberty in Germany.


http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/19/obama-nominates-former-bush-aide-dana-perino-for-administration/





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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:10 PM
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1. First greek columns, then the whitey video, then bowing, now this.
I haven't been so upset since Happy Feet was released on Blu-Ray.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
39. You say what? Happy Feet was WHAT???
:rofl:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:10 PM
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2. Gets her off of Fox...
Strategery in action.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:15 PM
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4. Then gives her MORE influence with regard to our media abroad.
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:18 PM by ShortnFiery
"Why genius, super genius I tells ya!" :eyes:

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President Obama has nominated Dana Perino, George W. Bush's last press secretary and a frequent critic of the new administration, to a board overseeing government-sponsored international broadcasting.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Which Republican would you choose for that post?
There must be Republicans too. Obama didn't make that up. I think Perino is an extremely genius choice! She's an idiot. I think it's brilliant! He could have chosen someone with more cells you know.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. :-)
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:21 PM by PBS Poll-435
:beer:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. No, I've long since tossed the "Obama's playing chess" philosophy.
They are all part of the same CLUB that "owns us."

A club that we are not a part of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:26 PM
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15. Well you should really understand the issue before you do all that pearl clutching and oh no-ing...
Because he did the right thing. There must be Republicans in that group, and Perino is fairly witless... brilliant choice on Obama's part. He could have chosen someone who could think a little, and that would have been really bad.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Oh please? I truly feel sorry for you if you truly believe that.
You'll be fine if you have a million or so in chump change, but the rest of us American People are being punked.

I can't believe so many GOOD and INTELLIGENT people are being suckered.

No, Obama is highly intelligent but he is not playing chess ... merely serving his corporate masters.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. Don't you understand the smallest thing?
This is a bipartisan group! Obama WAS COMPELLED to put a couple of Republicans in there! WTF??? Are you so intent on bashing Obama that you are willing to make yourself look the fool? Would you have rather he chose a thinking Republican?

Honestly... let go of your agenda for a second and think. You have no idea what intelligence is, clearly.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #26
67. Do you actually believe that there are *NO* registered Republicans who are supportive of Obama?
I could introduce you to a few.

Tesha
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. Which one would you choose?
Please... not one of the Obama bashers here can give a viable alternative... all y'all want to do is bash... or you'd be able to.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:23 PM
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85. Use your imagination. Lowell Weicker. What's-his-name the Rhode Island Repub, former Senator.
Half a dozen Republicans from Massachusetts.

There are *ANY NUMBER OF CHOICES* better than Dana.
That's just another damned slap in our faces.

Tesha
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #85
93. I don't agree at all...
I think it's a slap in the collective faces of Republicans everywhere to choose their dullest bulbs.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #93
105. You are entitled to your opinion. (NT)
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #26
120. to that poster, when obama brushes his teeth, he's "bowing down to his corporate masters"
a one trick pony if you will
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #15
108. So you think that President Obama should appoint stupid and witless people to important gov't posts.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #108
118. No, just stupid and witless Republicans...
When he is forced to choose among them.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #15
145. Now I wonder about your wits. Perino isn't stupid -- she has a powerful career trajectory
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 05:15 PM by Politicub
She is annoying and vapid, but she isn't witless as you make her out to be.

I get sick of dems underestimating some of these clowns on the right.

And,why do you personally do this? IMHO she should be put under the closest scrutiny. And to give her a pass as "witless" will lead some to think that means "harmless."

Is that what you mean? If not, what do you want to accomplish by calling her witless?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Ah, the "Obama = Bush" meme.
Yes, that's a clear indicator of rational thought.

:rofl:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #21
28. I'm not sure how to be more clear...
There must be Republicans... I think the agenda is so strong that many can't even see reality anymore.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #28
107. It's not your fault; it's not an issue of being "more clear"....
They've constructed their alternate reality, and they're sticking with it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #107
117. It took me a while to admit to that...
I really had hope. But you're right. When you're hell bent on hating, any ol' straw you grasp will do.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #117
121. why do you serve your corporate masters!!11!! *head explode, thud*
is what everything has boiled down to for them.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #121
122. LOL!
That explains all the noise:)
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
37. Maybe one of this group?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #37
49. Do you believe the Senate would approve a board composed entirely of Obama supporters?
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #49
58. When the repukes were in control
Bu$h did it all the time and we have more votes than they did.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Yeah, but the Dems aren't the Repubs. We don't flock together like they do.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #59
76. And hopefully most of us don't wallow in incorrectness...
Just because Bush did.

That's what these people want, you know... they want Obama to be just as crooked as Bush was. Sickening.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #58
72. So you don't understand the concept of taking the higher road?
Clearly Obama doesn't want to do the same nasty tricks Bush did. And for some reason he's chastised around here for that.

Makes no sense to me. For eight long hard years we begged the universe for a man who would stand on principle... now all the Obama bashers want him to be as bad as Bush. Unfreakingbelievable.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #72
87. Not when we are the ones
on the road getting run over.
Being 'bipartisan' doesn't necessarily mean being one with principles, they don't go hand in hand.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #87
92. He has no choice in this matter...
There are four of each in this group... he had to choose... being bipartisan in this wasn't his choice.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #58
86. We've only got 60 votes. It's not like we have a supermajority or anything. (NT)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #37
51. Why would putting a thinking Republican in there be better than...
A vacuous one?

:shrug:

Why make the Repbulicans look better when you can show how stupid they are?

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #51
84. You would really prefer
an idiot with a vote? I'd rather have someone on our side.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #84
90. The brains in the group will run roughshod over her!
Why would you want a clever Republican in there at all? A bad person with brains is always far more dangerous!

:shrug:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:13 PM
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3. isn't Victor Ashe George W's lover? (eom)
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. He was bush's room mate in college
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. Well...it's called "conspiracy theory" but it was popular when Chimpy was in power ...here..
The Truth about George W. Bush

Here you will find out the little known truth concerning President George W. Bush, Victor Ashe, the current American ambassador to Poland (formerly mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee and Exec. V.P.; C.F.O. of Fannie Mae), and their adulterous-bisexual relationship with a Las Vegas woman in 1984.

This situation took place in 1984 in the State of Tennessee. It concerns a 41 year old woman , Victor Ashe and George Bush's encounter in 1984 during the senate debates between Al Gore, Jr., Victor Ashe and Ed McAteer. She was invited to come to Tennessee by Victor Ashe. While attending one of these debates she spoke briefly with Ed McAteer (Senatorial candidate in 1984 who debated alongside Al Gore, Jr. and Victor Ashe, and was responsible in part for the emergence of the Religious Right).

Members of the mainstream media (CNN, FOX/news, Chicago Tribune) have known about this Las Vegas woman since September of 2003 yet they have done little if anything to get to the bottom of it. Like Bush's national guard service records they've given him a free pass concerning the what, where and when of his participation in the Texas Air National Guard.

We believe if the whereabouts and war-time behavior of Senator Kerry during his tour in Vietnam in the early 70's are matters of importance to the American people then the past behavior of this President and his involvement in a homosexual situation with another man in the mid 80's is of equal importance.

When this Las Vegas woman told us about her conversation with Ed McAteer we thought it was something that should be looked into. He was being treated for cancer so we had to move quickly to open a dialogue. We believed obtaining a death bed declaration of a man of Ed McAteer's stature in the Christian community would have held tremendous weight.?Ed coming forward to say what he witnessed or knew concerning this matter would have been unimpeachable. Ed was a staunch supporter of the state of Israel and quietly lobbied for the post of U.S. ambassador to Israel back in 2001 but was turned down for the position by none other than George W. Bush. It seems in George W. Bush's isolated bubble, ambassadorships are rewards set aside for friends and lovers only.

We initially contacted Mr. McAteer back in May of this year. He mentioned at that time Victor Ashe's sexual shenanigans were no secret in Tennessee. He seemed resentful of his party's choice to back a 'sodomite' which is why he ran as an independent. Ed was on chemotherapy and it was extremely difficult for him to talk so we deferred until late August at which time his wife informed us he wanted to talk further but was under doctors orders to refrain from all strenuous activity. Sadly, Ed McAteer passed away on Oct. 5, 2004, before we could do a follow-up interview, he was 78. For Ed's sake we hope his departure was natural , however, the timing of it all seems rather untimely in our opinion. It bares looking into by the Tennessee authorities.

When he passed way another writer contacted Faye and she imparted to him that Ed seemed upset upon returning from the debate in Chattanooga back in 1984. Was Ed aware of Victor Ashe and George W. Bush's bisexual behavior? Perhaps that is what upset him so.

Unfortunately he didn't get the chance to tell us what he witnessed that night that upset him or if he remembered talking with the Las Vegas woman.

more salacious stuff at.....

http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #17
133. But Victor Ashe..oh come on now..are people so dumb and naive to think the only repug
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 09:20 PM by flyarm
Obama could name would happen to be Victor Ashe?????????

fuck this place has gone to hell in a handbasket if people are that fucking stupid or naive to excuse this!

and where did Bush and AF1 fly the morning of 9/11?????? go look it up!

wake the fuck up people!
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
5. The law requires that Obama appoint some Republicans to that board.
It's supposed to be bipartisan. The seats that Perino and Ashe got are reserved for Republicans.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:20 PM
Original message
+1
that part gets left out everytime.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
12. It's no fun when they can't bash Obama for yet another misunderstood issue!
:rofl:

Ah jeez... it's really dumb around here lately.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. read a little about Victor Ashe........above....I know...it's just conspiracy theory...but still...
it's good for gossip isn't it?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #19
40. Then he has even less credibility than I thought!
Absolutely freaking brilliant choice! I fully support his choices in this! The vacuous and the criminal! That will make the Dem members of the team shine in comparison!

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #40
45. Do you believe that DOOFUS Repugs will get this "Chess Playing?" Think! SARAH!
for 2012! Do you not see what's going on here? :shrug:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. They don't have to!
Do you honestly think Sarah has a snowball's chance in hell? Really? Do you honestly think that?

Do you understand that Obama was FORCED to choose a couple of Republicans? Can you name a better choice?

No, you can't.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #45
127. Do you process things logically?
All the repubs are far right loons with bad backgrounds. O is forced to pick one out of the bunch. Get over it..there's nothing he can do. Unless you can name two better republicans which will be shot down by others on this board since all repubs are a mess. Your post is a fail.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #127
134. Victor Ashe.Victor fucking ashe is the only GD repug Obama could come up with..oh pleaseeeeeee..come
on, no one is that stupid..or maybe some here are that fucking stupid!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #134
139. Then provide another. You give someone you don't like..give me another.
Get the clue that they're ALL SHIT!!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #139
162. this one is the piece of shit that is bushies old lover..does it get any better?
the very same fucker bush flew to see the morning of 9/11..who bushie needed to get the fuck out of the country because dems were getting hot on his trail.yeah i can come up many Lincoln Chefee ..any of the other pices of shit would be a prize over this fucker!

do some research on ole Victor Fucking Ashe!

please ignore my typo's i have a broken right arm..and can't type well left handed.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. No matter how many times this sort of thing is mentioned...
You'll see a lot of pearl clutching here.

:eyes:

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #5
126. People don't give a fuck about the truth. People like drama on the board. n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
6. She would be in way over her head...
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:20 PM by JuniperLea
I think this is yet another time when Obama is playing chess, and the typical DUer is still making the first move in checkers.

He's all about giving them a chance... a chance to look uber stoopid.

I'm all for it. Which Pubbie would you have rather he chose?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #6
22. So...Obama infiltrates his Administration with Bush Bots and that's "Playing Chess?"
Are you drinking something...or do you truly believe that many of us activists Dems in the Party will suck up what you say as TRUTH? Many of us being on this Planet since JFK who have seen it ALL?

Oh YEAH....PLAYING CHESS! :eyes: Must think there are suckers at the tables in Las Vegas.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Do you know the first thing about this group of people?
Do you understand that there must be Republicans in this BIPARTISAN group? Which Republicans would you choose? Hmmm?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #29
137. how about anybody but Victor fucking Ashe and Perino..are these two fucking repugs the best
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 11:26 PM by flyarm
he can do???????????if you think that..then have i got swamp land for you! wake the fuck up!..do a little back ground on Victor Fucking Ashe will ya! Before you try to sell this stinking nasty pile of excrement to those of us who know all about the fucker!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #6
42. He's also nullifying her by putting her there. She won't be able to flap
her gums so readily.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. Exactomundo!
It's shining the bright white light of truth on her. I'm betting she fails under scrutiny.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:44 PM
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48. Dream on....Dream on...Dream on.......n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #48
62. I know who is dreaming...
And it's not seabeyond, that's for damn sure.

I can't understand the willingness of some to allow themselves to appear the utter fool in order to bash Obama. Amazing.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #42
142. Disagree 100%
I think Obama may think that, but in actuality, Perino can now use her official position as a platform to undermine support for Obama and his policies. She will have MUCH more credibility with her base because they will assume she has insider's knowledge of the traitorous Muslim socialist president.

I think this is evidence of Obama's biggest character flaw, i.e; he wants EVERYBODY to like him. He's unwilling to accept that he has true enemies who are out to destroy him. Big mistake letting spies and assassins into your administration.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #142
150. This position
is not that of an insider. It's a board membership, split evenly between Dems & Repubs and presided over by a Democrat.

While I disagree with those who are quick to call her witless, because I think we do ourselves a disservice when we write off our opposition as fools, I don't think her position on this board is anything to get up in arms about.

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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:20 PM
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9. Calm down. The law requires Republican appointments.
Some federal commissions are statutorily required to have a certain number of members from each party. A lot of state boards operate the same way. I was just appointed to a historic district commission by a Republican mayor; it's not that big a deal.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Exactly!
And that said, Perino is a freaking brilliant choice! She's too dull to make a difference anyway!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Yes! The TRUTH shall set us free: Political Elites and their crony cohorts.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. And still you don't get it...
Which Republican would you have chosen? Which one would be a better choice?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. But that's the point: It's not Republican vs. Democrat but Corporatists represented by political
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:32 PM by ShortnFiery
elites against the rest of us.

This country is OWNED by Corporate Interests: lock, stock and barrel.

That's why we will get screwed in ANY health care bill and will continue the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

But you continue to fight this "political war" and it's inane.

We must vote in POPULISTS. That's the only answer.

Until then, we are in for a long cold "corporate ruled" nation.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:35 PM
Original message
You're making less and less sense...
What part of "There must be Republicans appointed in this group" do you not understand? And which Republican would have been a better choice? How could Obama have done better?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:40 PM
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38. How about nominate one of the more obscure, intelligent MODERATE GOP not that
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:40 PM by ShortnFiery
"arrogant and highly visible" corporate crony known as Dana Perino? It's as if they are figuratively "in bed" together. More and more, I can't help but believe that there's POWER SHARING between the GOP and conservative democrats.

We think our votes count for something, but they only determine which players get to run the Bread and Circus dramas that are fed to us so we'll remain STUPID and COMPLACENT.

It's not hard with such great propaganda outlets ... all over the M$M as well as the Net.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. Who would you chose?
You make less and less sense the more you post, so go ahead... tell me who... who would you chose?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #38
151. and which ones are those?
which "moderate" republican would drop his day job and take this post?
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:54 PM
Response to Original message
66. Twas ever thus with this poster
More doctrinaire, ultrapartisan, "Dennis Kucinich is a damn Blue Dog corporatist sell-out" gobbledygook.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. "populist" does not mean "good".
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #35
131. I think one of these days...
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 05:44 PM by Chan790
I'm going to pull out the history and political theory texts and write that blog post about how traditionally populists in this nation have tended to be social-regressivists as well.

Literally when one talks about early-20th century politics the main continuum was not D vs. R or Conservative vs. Liberal (both parties had large numbers of both) but Progressives vs. Populists. It's hard to rep the "people" when the "people" tend to be less on the cutting-edge of social issues than their leaders. The appeal to being the champion of the people typically means embracing their (traditionalist) values. Populism is by its' very nature traditionalist and majoritarian. (Unless we want to lay claim to half the label by claiming economic-populism and denying that social-populism is populism too, we're going to have to fight the theo-cons for this crown.)

There is something a little less "cool" about the word "populist" when you realize that Coolidge and Hoover were populists(and modern theory frequently lumps Reagan into the pool of 20th c. conservative populists as well)...and FDR, TR, Wilson and the Kennedy brothers were not.

It is not a euphemism for liberal (or moderate) as some like to throw it around in these parts to match their own worldview.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #24
41. Obama IS a populist.
Please try to figure out what it is you're talking about before you stick your foot in your mouth.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. Oh yeah, I forgot that you are omniscient and all knowing
:eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #44
75. I'm amazed...
You keep digging deeper and deeper... you must really hate Obama... you can't even see the facts right now you are so blinded by your rage.

Very sad. Your hair is on fire and not only do you NOT know why, but you don't care to know. Unfreakingbelievable. You are so intent on bashing Obama you can't bring yourself to see the brilliance in this choice.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #9
25. If Obama is "Playing Chess" you think he'd pick the worst of the worst "Black Knights" to place on
fragile boards against WEAK DEMS?

You gotta be SMOKING, DIPPING or VEINING!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
33. When you have to stoop to personal insults... you lose...
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Who could be weaker than Dana Perino for fuck's sake?

:eyes:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #9
138. not Victor Fucking Ashe and bush's mouth piece Perino..is Karen Hughes next..gee i can't wait!! wtf?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
23. Wow.
You've edited your post to make it even more hysterical and absurd, and that's after your phony concerns have been debunked.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. SUCK IT UP....and DO YOUR RESEARCH!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. Koko, I've done all the research that I need to do.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #32
55. Your mind regresses to where the Repug Fundies Dwell... You dwell in DU Lounge
where YOU'VE FALLEN and CAN'T GET UP!

:D

I love ya' FUCKTOSE CORN SYRUP! :hug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:34 PM
Response to Original message
30. Just one more thing that makes me shake my head
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:36 PM by depakid
I guess there weren't enough qualified people among his supporters or at least fairly neutral types...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. You're glad you don't have to vote for "that guy" again?
Please explain?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #34
47. I edited that out- mostly because it was superfluous
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:44 PM by depakid
I'll have Australian citizenship by then- though the way things are going- I'd no more vote for Obama than I did for Clinton on 1996.

Bottom line is that I don't support Republican policies- and more and more what I'm seeing are 80's style Republican policies, as with Clinton. Screw that.

You vote for that pile of fail is you want.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #30
36. He had no choice but to appoint a couple of Republicans...
Those seats were "earmarked" for Republicans. Tell me, which "neutral" or "qualified" Republicans would you have chosen?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #36
54. I'm aware of that- but like Clinton appointing Micheal Powell to the FCC
this was a foul appointment all around- and tells me a lot about this administration. Believe me, there were PLENTY of better choices than picking a partisan hack of an enemy!

And there's no excuse for it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #54
61. Do you honestly think she can hold her own in that crowd?
Really? I think she will stfu out of peer pressure. She will be called on her stupidity!

Tell me then, who would you choose? I keep asking this, but non of the Obama bashers can give a good answer.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #61
73. Oh please, spare me the rationalizations
And I'm not on the committee that makes these decisions, so I don't know who they considered but this among other things sends EXACTLY the wrong message.

And again, you can't tell me that- out of how many thousands of candidates, there aren't more qualified and ideologically neutral people out there who are. Frankly is see this as yet ANOTHER example of the administration pandering to the right and rewarding failure.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #73
77. I don't see how putting their stupid in the lime light is helping them at all...
He's not going to play dirty like Bush did, so you may as well give up that fantasy.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #77
89. The woman's been in the biggest limelight of all!
What the hell is this going to do other than undermine the Board of Governors' work?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #89
96. She is null and void! That's why!
The brains in the group will run roughshod over her! Elementary!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. Yep- just what we want on the Board
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 08:37 PM by depakid
a petty, unethical pile of fail that will undermine the administration's goals at every chance.

So much for a return to competency. But then again, we've seen that in several agency appointments lately.

Let's appoint a pesticide executive to be our chief agricultural negotiator in the Office of the US Trade!

:think:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #98
102. I'm not sure how you figure that...
She's weak... and will be shown as such...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #102
116. "She's weak... and will be shown as such... "
Unfortunately, from many perspectives the reverse is true.

If I were to think of a weaker- or a more bizarre thing to do, it would be hard to find.

Imagine Bush- or any other Republican appointing Gibbs!

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #54
65. "...there were PLENTY of better choices than picking a partisan hack of an enemy!"
Yes, that's the brass tacks of this issue. :thumbsup:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #36
60. Not just 2 of them.. but 4.. 4 and 4 of each..
:rofl:..
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #60
71. And not one Obama basher here can give one single name...
Of a better choice of Republican!

:rofl:

Honestly... it's beyond silly season around here... they are arguing for argument's sake and not caring how foolish they look!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:27 PM
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91. JuniperLea, Exactly WHO is Obama a VICTIM to? Can you give me some explanation?
Your posts here seem to push that Obama is "doing the best he can" and that he might even have a "plan" that we Dems are not privy to but that we should "trust him" on this.

But then you say that Obama had "no choice but to appoint a couple of Republicans." Yet, you don't seem to understand that Obama has appointed so many Republicans to his Admnistration and for Cabinet and other Important Posts that surely some of us Dems would wonder WHY we voted for him for "CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN" in the FIRST PLACE? :shrug:

Surely you can understand that as a life long Dem along with others here on this board...that we DO ...have QUESTIONS? GIVEN what we went through with BUSH/CHENEY? This is hardly a time when CRIMINALS SHOULD BE APPEASED...WOULD YA THINK? :eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #91
119. Did you bother reading the article?
Do you understand it was manditory that he choose 4 Republicans and 4 Democrats?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:46 PM
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52. BBG...consists of 4 Dems, 4 repubs, and the Sec of State.. all confirmed by senate
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:46 PM
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53. Dana Perino is Hawt. I want to marry her.
'Cept I think she might be married already. :cry:

"Talking the Talk":




"She's an Angel":

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Zg9I8HpF3SI/SGFAA8UF_BI/AAAAAAAAAxM/QxZLBrOHFB8/s400/dana+perino+saint.jpg


"After Hours":



:loveya:

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:47 PM
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56. !
:rofl:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #56
64. and...
"Doesn't like men who dress like sissies."




And this one's on my ceiling, "Windy":



:hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #53
63. She's VERY HOT! I hear there's a Repug Website that has her in "VS" and
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 07:54 PM by KoKo
it's secret with only a password. Word is that the Repug Aides on Capitol Hill have secret access but don't give it out. Apparently Dana was doing "stuff" in a couple of bars in the last days of Bushies stolen Presidency and Dana "freaked out" one night from the pressure and "revealed it all" in a bar in Georgetown.

Google it. There are pictures.... She was such a simple, adoring Bush Worshiper...but when she knew McCain was going to lose it...she freaked out and ended up ...with some bad stuff one night. Maybe Obama felt sorry for her that she had to go into REHAB and BUSHIES forced him to take her as a "FAVOR" for not prosecuting them...along with some other deals on the side.

I do feel sorry for her. If she "did this stuff" in a depression over Repugs Losing...I can empathize as that's how I felt after Kerry lost. I just didn't go out and do what DANA DID...

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. O.M.G.
I did NOT know all that.

She needs me. :P

Off to Google...
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #63
94. How about you
link to this stuff instead of telling us to Google it. This is the first I've heard of her "doing stuff" and/or going to rehab.

I think you're making it all up, and I think that sucks because I don't like being put in the position to defend people I despise.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #94
111. Do some research....
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:47 PM
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57. He's LEGALLY REQUIRED to appoint four Republicans.
:banghead:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #57
69. "Facts are stupid things"-The Gipper
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #57
74. That doesn't mean you go out and reward Bush's press secretary
who among other things is known to be a serial liar.

WTF is wrong with you people?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #74
78. When one has to wonder what's wrong...maybe there's something there that
is worth examining? :shrug:

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. Blind faith. Or something
I mean- appointing the front person for the worst President in history- whose messes you're purportedly supposed to be cleaning up...

Boggles the mind.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #74
79. So who would your Republican choice be?
Remember, we're talking about non-serial liars here, so the field is extremely narrow.

WTF is wrong with you people?

We're guilty of reading the article before responding, unlike some people.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #79
81. That's a just chidish remark like Juniper Lea's
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 08:19 PM by depakid
But I'll tell you this- if I DID happen to be on the committee responsible for vetting qualified personnel, I guarantee you I could find someone from some aspect of the business or academia that would be infinitely better than this- and wouldn't be sending this sort of message.

I mean Bush's spokesperson? Come on now.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #81
82. Agree...and surely the "Center for American Progress" our first truly liberal Think Tank gave Obama
names that weren't these hacks and sychophants? :shrug:
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #82
104. You're too much
He also named Susan McCue:

http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/susan_mccue.html

Susan McCue is a political strategist and President of Message Global LLC, a strategic public affairs firm she founded in January 2008 to advance progressive campaigns, global non-profit advocacy, grassroots activism and corporate social responsibility.

Following the historic 2006 Congressional victories, McCue become the founding President & CEO of The ONE Campaign, a high-energy grassroots and grasstops advocacy campaign backed by U2’s Bono to make global extreme poverty history. McCue elevated ONE into a national force and helped catalyze a powerful movement that uses state-of-the-art technology to bring non-profits and millions of Americans together as agents of change.






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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #104
106. So what do you think this group will do for us?
:shrug: Or, are you just impressed by U2's BONO and his gal who joined in '08 who's gonna make a bundle of money while millions lose jobs due to Obama's Bush Picks of Geithner and Summers?
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #106
109. No
I'm much more impressed with someone who makes up conspiracy theories on the internet, then I am with someone who is actively working and founding progressive grassroots initiatives.

:sarcasm:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. Ahh...so only Bono is "actively working and founding progressive grassroots initiatives."
You kind of ignore all the rest of us who've been at this for over a decade, don't you. :eyes: But, then you don't bother to read in depth to know what the rest of your fellow DU'ers have been up to all this long time...before you throw pot shots at them. Do you?
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #110
113. At no point in this
conversation was I speaking about Bono. I was referring to Susan McCue. Whose bio you can read any number of places on the internet, for instance in the link I posted above.

You're the one taking pot shots at people in this thread. You took a couple at me for simply posting the bio of one of the other appointees. I realize her nomination doesn't feed into the hysteria you're promoting, so I guess that's why you chose to disparage her and me.

Oh, and I've been an activist for a quite a bit more than a decade. :eyes:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #81
83. But you saying "WTF is wrong with you people?" is the height of maturity?
:rofl:

And you still haven't given me a name. "Guaranteeing" you'd find someone is not an answer. You need to be specific.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #83
95. Under the circumstances, it's the most appropriate response
because there IS something wrong!

But continue with your childish (and it really is) "who would pick then" type of deal- or keep thinking "hey, the administration picked her- so it has to be OK."
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #95
99. I was responding to your disappointment with the nomination.
Therefore, the most logical response would be to sincerely ask who your alternate choice would be. Given that he had to nominate a Republican, my response was appropriate.

Your defensiveness is no excuse for not answering.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #99
103. If I'm on the committee picking appointees- then I do the work (and have staffers)
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 08:56 PM by depakid
I round up 50 names or whatever and review 'em

That's the job.

and out of those names the LAST one you pick is the spokesperson for the worst president in history- who the rest of the world hates!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #103
125. And you haven't the wherewithal to understand why that's the best choice...
Unbelievable. You gave the answer right there, but you yourself do not get it. Unfuckingbelievable. There is a serious disconnect here.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #95
124. What utter bullshit...
You can't even say why it was a bad choice, and you have no clue as to who would be a better choice, but everyone else is an idiot... riiiiiight...
:rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #81
88. No.
That's calling your bluff.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #88
97. No it's a being a jerk
and not grasping the obvious.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #97
100. So I'm a jerk for asking who your alternate choice would be?
:rofl:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #100
123. No, for making it clear the poster has no clue what they're talking about...
:rofl:

Obama's choice was wrong, wrong, wrong... but he has no idea what a right choice would be in this instance.

Oh boy...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #88
101. Do some GAMING?...Dwell on Old Movies?....Maybe stuck in Penquinside and CAN't GET OUT
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 08:48 PM by KoKo
to do a discussion. Your mode is to dto SNIPE Attacks. Shouldn't you just join the Military where you can carry GUN and be the BIG DICK you always wanted? Or...do you want to "Pretend" you actually have some history with the Dem Party. :shrug:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #57
128. They just want something to bash. Let them. n/t
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #57
129. and, generally, the minority leader recommends names for who gets his party's seats.
Custom plays a role in US politics, too, even though we don't talk much about it.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:38 PM
Response to Original message
112. President Obama is smarter than I by an order of magnitude that is measured in Astronomical Units.
He knows what's best. Why question it? I've been sleeping soooo much better since 1/20, shy upset the apple cart?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #112
114. Yes, if a high level of intelligence equates to honesty and an upstanding moral nature ...
one need look no farther than AEI's Richard Perle. :wow: :scared:

http://www.aei.org/scholar/49
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #114
115. You should know me better than that.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:26 PM
Response to Original message
130. Maybe Dana would be interested in a cabinet post...
She'd get some support here, I reckon.

At least in GDP.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #130
132. But we're not talking about a cabinet post. We're talking about a relatively meaningless
post in a committee with 7 others, presided over by a Democrat.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #132
140. Obviously. Maybe I should have added a "joke" signifier.
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 11:20 AM by freddie mertz
I don't like Dana Perino and suspect that better candidates were/are out there.

She's a lair and a fool, lest we forget.

But I recognize the relative insignificance of the appointment.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
135. all we need is Karen Hughes to make this circle jerk complete!
How wonderful a Bush/cheney cluster fuck reunion , just in time for the holidays!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
136. What? Does he think this is going to help him with republicans? Why HER?
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
141. I'm struck by the Audacity of Dopes
who still believe in change...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:09 PM
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #143
147. WTF?! Are you equating Obama to Hitler? n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #141
148. You're talking trash. Read post # 5, #9 & # 57. The truth is in this thread but you spread lies.nt
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 05:26 PM by vaberella
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:11 PM
Response to Original message
144. I will never understand why Obama throws the GOP any bones
It's not like they will yield one inch for any legislation he wants passed. Does the GOP have dirt on Obama or something?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #144
146. Did you read the thread? He's legally required to put Repubs in the seats.
It's reserved for them. To give you an example, if those seats were Dem seats and Bush was President, he'd be required to fill the seats with Dems---even if he doesn't like it. And you and everyone here would say that the Freepers are stupid and don't understand that their required. Let's get the facts before we sound as anally retentive as the freepers.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #146
152. I didn't read the entire thread - so I get it now
Thanks for pointing that out.

But I still don't have to like it! ;)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #146
154. Actually he isn't required to put Repugs on Board..could put Independents on and a wide swath of
Repugs are not Conservative Bush Bots like Perino and Victor Ashe. Actually the the guidlines were posted on Daily Kos as to the choice Obama had. A DU'er posted it in GD (the actual guidelines) and got trashed (by the usual subjects) on his referral over to Daily Kos.

It's amazing to me that the dialog over at "Kos" is so much more informed than the dialog here, these days.

Obama wasn't FORCED to put Perino or Ashe on the Board. He had a wide choice open to him, who wouldn't have been associated with Bush. Yet, he did. And those folks will obstruct and make themselves like red ants on the butts of the Dems on the Board. Maybe that was the point. Obama puts obstructionists on the Board and we Progressives see it as a "stick in the eye" and Obama and Rahm think this is good because it makes Progressive Dems learn a lesson. :shrug:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #154
155. It says at the BBG home site, that it is four Democrats and four repubs..
http://www.bbg.gov/about/faq.html

Q: What is the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG)?

The Broadcasting Board of Governors is both the name of the independent federal government Agency that oversees all U.S. non-military international broadcasting, and the name of the Board that governs those broadcasts.

The broadcast organizations include the Voice of America (VOA), Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty (RFE/RL), Office of Cuba Broadcasting (OCB), Radio Free Asia (RFA), Middle East Broadcasting Networks (MBN) and the International Broadcasting Bureau (IBB).

The Board is composed of nine members with expertise in the fields of mass communications, print, broadcast media, or international affairs. Eight members (4 Democrats and 4 Republicans) are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The ninth, the Secretary of State, serves ex officio.

The BBG became an independent federal government agency on October 1, 1999.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #155
156. Cornell LAW says NO!
One does not equal the other
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec...

(b) Composition of Board
(1) The Board shall consist of 9 members, as follows:
(A) 8 voting members who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
(B) The Secretary of State who shall also be a voting member.
(2) The President shall appoint one member (other than the Secretary of State) as Chairman of the Board, subject to the advice and consent of the Senate.
(3) Exclusive of the Secretary of State, not more than 4 of the members of the Board appointed by the President shall be of the same political party.

I still don't see why he would pick the Bush Administration spokesperson

THE DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND MOVIE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUiEd0IHaDs

AND:

Post on this from DU'er "lame54"...."HE DIDN'T HAVE TO PICK A REPUBLICAN"




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7054043
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #156
160. Cornell Law is not the BBG site---I'd assume the site would know its rules better.
Wouldn't you? Unless of course you want to grasp at anything that proves you're right so you can continue on your misguided indignation.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #154
159. Actually it's been stated on the thread the Minority leader suggests the names.
So yeah...he's sort of required.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
149. DANA PERRINO?? Could Obama NOT find a non-lying Republican??
Edited on Sat Nov-21-09 05:36 PM by WinkyDink
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #149
153. He could have, if only such a creature actually existed.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #149
157. That is who Senator Minorty Leader Mitchell
recommended!


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #157
158. Do you remember Chimpy ever doing what "Senate Minority Leader," Reid Proposed?
:shrug: I just remember the Repugs blocking every Dem administration appointment to any Board or Position when they were in power. This is after throwing out all the Clinton appointees.

Obama tries to be the "Bi-Partisan Good Guy" and Repugs swamp him with Bush Bots and he says: "Cool...I'm with this...Bring it On!" :eyes: That's not counting the BushBots that Obama didn't get rid of when he won the overwhelming Election for "CHANGE YOU CAN BELIVE IN."

How many Bush Bot Holde-overs did Obama throw out? How many "REPUG MOLES" has Obama allowed to keep their cushy Jobs in Government?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #158
161. What happened specifically in 8 years for the BBG seats?
The generalities are great when you want to make generalities---but specificity is needed in this case. So please deliver in order to prove your point.
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